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Old 09-07-2011, 02:02 AM   #1
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******** MOSTLY IGNORE THE ABOVE INFO ********

I made this recipe based as a variation of Graham's English Cider. After making his recipe (although quite tasty), I felt it wasn't traditional enough for my discerning English palette. The big difference in my recipe is that I use actual malic acid and tannins to achieve the desired effect. I want to stress the fact that this cider should be drinkable in 3-4 months, which is shorter than Graham's cider aging time due to a few factors. First, and foremost, I believe the WLP775 cider yeast is a BIG factor in the aging time. Using a non-cider yeast may get you a slightly different, and interesting end result, but sticking with the yeast that has been selected specifically for the task at hand will never be a bad idea. The other change that I feel is important in reducing the aging time is the malic acid vs the lime juice. I've not looked into what happens to citric acid during fermentation, but the malic acid is a know substance that has been involved in cider fermentation for hundreds of years, and the fermentation of malic acid to malolactic acid by small amounts of lactobacilli is actually an important step in traditional cider making.

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5 gal Apple Juice (I use Costco Brand Apple Juice)
3 oz Malic Acid (first tried 3.75oz, I then dialed it back on the next batch as I think it was a touch too acidic)
Powdered Tannins to taste (start at 1/4 tsp per gal up to 1/2 tsp per gal)**
WLP775 - gives a great apple flavour, needs only 3-4 months ageing

The result is a great, medium dry cider (finished at 1.004) with a nice tartness and decent body. I think using malic acid and the WLP775 yeast is key to this being successful.

**I haven't dialed in the tannin ratio yet, and can't find my notes on what I used. My belief is that I used 1/4 tsp per gallon on the last batch. I will be converting the inaccurate teaspoon measurement with weight when I make the next batch (soon).


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Old 09-13-2011, 04:06 PM   #2
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A quick note: If you intend to leave this cider uncarbonated, I would dial back the malic acid a little, maybe to 3.25oz. I found when I first chilled it, before adding the bubbles, that it was a little overly tart. This balanced out very well once carbed, though.


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Old 09-17-2011, 05:41 PM   #3
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I plan on kegging this. Is there anything specific you do for kegging this?

is this a strong bow clone ?

 
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:52 PM   #4
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I plan on kegging this. Is there anything specific you do for kegging this?

is this a strong bow clone ?
I keg it as it, and I haven't directly compared this is Strongbow. It wasn't intended to be a clone of anything specific, and Strongbow isn't really the best example of a traditional English cider, though it isn't bad. I would say this is more tart than Strongbow.
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3-4 months aging... where do you suggest? in a secondary carboy? or in a keg and left in my cold conditioning spot in my keezer?

 
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:59 AM   #6
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also did you use Campden tablets or sodium metabisulfite?

 
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:57 AM   #7
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Neither is necessary, the Costco apple juice is considered sanitary coming out of the bottles.

I fermented it in a 6 gal Better Bottle and left it there until I racked to a keg after 3-4 months. You can put it in a keg after the fermentation is over at any time, though.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:57 PM   #8
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I can get the wyeast equiv. cider yeast. Will this work? Also, how is the malic acid in yours being converted if no lacto bacillus?

 
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I can get the wyeast equiv. cider yeast. Will this work? Also, how is the malic acid in yours being converted if no lacto bacillus?
I'm sure the wyeast equivalent is fine. As for the malic acid, not all cider undergoes malolactic acid fermentation, though cider apples always contain malic acid. I have thought about trying some cider with a little lacto added and see what comes of it, but it'll be a hard thing to control.
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How active is the WLP775 yeast? I am going to brew this recipe on Sunday and do it in a 5 gallon carboy. Will I need to use a blow off system for the first couple of days?



 
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