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Old 09-06-2011, 07:38 PM   #11
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Fly sparging requires two simultaneous transfers. You need to run off from your MLT into the BK and at the same time add back sparge water from the HLT. The pump can only be doing one job at a time. If you went with a two level design like the Sabco Brew Magic style, you could gravity drain the MLT into the BK while using the pump to move sparge water from the HLT to the MLT. Alternatively, you could have just the HLT elevated and let it gravity drain into the MLT while the pump moved the wort from the MLT to the BK.

I will need to look up the wall thickness - I don't remember that off hand.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:39 PM   #12
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You misunderstand what he is saying. The pumps work fine for flysparging, but because it involves simultaneously filling and draining the MLT, it requires TWO pumps if you go single-tier.
yeah I just was coming to that conclusion in my head haha! Sometimes my firm grasp of the obvious er well... waivers.
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And for that wall thickness, I was looking for a ball park. I am interested in asking the steel guys for a quote of precut steel to see how much this will take costwise. I was actually going to submit your stock cut list.

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Reading some threads I think I will be going with 2x2'' 11g or 1/8'' square tubing for my build (mild steel). I like the added rugged factor and the relative ease of tapping the stock so I can add things (i.e. brew controller). Now I just have to get a quote and see about custom cutting vs. plain stock.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:39 PM   #14
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And for that wall thickness, I was looking for a ball park. I am interested in asking the steel guys for a quote of precut steel to see how much this will take costwise. I was actually going to submit your stock cut list.

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Reading some threads I think I will be going with 2x2'' 11g or 1/8'' square tubing for my build (mild steel). I like the added rugged factor and the relative ease of tapping the stock so I can add things (i.e. brew controller). Now I just have to get a quote and see about custom cutting vs. plain stock.
Pretty sure mine is 1/8". At that thickness, you don't need vertical uprights in the front or rear of the stand. I know my stand could hold a car on it!

I use self tapping screws for mounting all my electrical underneath, J-boxes, pumps, chiller, etc. Even my new tippy dump was added with self tapping screws and it is solid as a rock.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:46 PM   #15
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Pretty sure mine is 1/8". At that thickness, you don't need vertical uprights in the front or rear of the stand. I know my stand could hold a car on it!

I use self tapping screws for mounting all my electrical underneath, J-boxes, pumps, chiller, etc. Even my new tippy dump was added with self tapping screws and it is solid as a rock.
Awesome! That sounds like very easy installation that will look very good.

Was just quoted about $185 delivered for 2x2 in precut stock from your cut list. Of course I didn't have them do the mitre cuts, but man that is VERY tempting to me. Though I am sure it would be a bit cheaper to get full length stock and cut it myself.

2qty 60'' length
2qty 18'' length
2qty 56'' length
8qty 14'' length
4qty 24'' length

CARBON STEEL SQUARE TUBING HREW A-513 TP 1 PICKLED & OILED

I assume this is the stuff I shoudl be looking for (see steel description above)?
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:03 PM   #16
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I just got an e-mail from the guy who picked up my steel and he said he thinks it was 16 gauge (.065").
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:23 PM   #17
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I just got an e-mail from the guy who picked up my steel and he said he thinks it was 16 gauge (.065").
That sounds right. I've been researching for my eventual single-tier build and it seems 1.5" square 16 gauge was right in the middle of what people have been using...

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Old 09-06-2011, 11:47 PM   #18
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anyone have any comments about stainless?

 
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:16 AM   #19
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anyone have any comments about stainless?
Sure: "$$$"

I'd love to build a stainless single tier stand, as I have stainless kettles, stainless burner wind guards, stainless valves, stainless QDs and all fittings...but damn that stainless tubing stuff is pricey.

Still, it might happen, if my contract work holds up...

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Old 09-07-2011, 12:59 AM   #20
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Im in the same boat looking at steel. I built the single tier in autocad and designed it using 1" X 1" angle at .125 (1/8") thick with a 1" X 1" square tubing border or collar. I too will "piggy back" your thread.

 
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