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Old 08-27-2011, 01:42 PM   #1
Beerens
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Any theories as to why this beer finishes weak? Comes on nice but just fades and finishes limply...

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8.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 80.00 %
0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7.50 %
0.50 lb Golden Naked Oats (10.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Pale Chocolate (200.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.50 %
0.40 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 16.7 IBU
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 11.2 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (15 min) Hops 8.6 IBU
0.60 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale

Mashed at 153
Fermented at 68



Reason: misspelling

 
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:49 PM   #2
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Can you be more specific?


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Old 08-27-2011, 02:38 PM   #3
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When tasting a beer there is usually a beginning, a middle and an end to the flavor. The beginning and middle have flavor, but the end is empty. I want a great finish to the beer, so when you are done you have some flavor left on the pallet.

 
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Old 08-27-2011, 03:48 PM   #4
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By looking at your recipe, it looks like you were going for a hoppy brown ale. Next time, try dry hopping it with an ounce or more of the hop you want. Dry hopping will give you great flavor and aroma in the finish. You could also try upping the bittering hops to give you that lingering bitter finish.

If you're looking for a more malty finish, I'd suggest some victory or biscuit malt in the grist. Maybe some vienna also.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:44 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Beerens View Post
When tasting a beer there is usually a beginning, a middle and an end to the flavor. The beginning and middle have flavor, but the end is empty. I want a great finish to the beer, so when you are done you have some flavor left on the pallet.
Yeast used ? California Ale tends to ferment very dry, which can harm the overall "fullness" of the beer. Is the body also thin ? Your malt bill seems sound to me, so maybe a more flavourful and less attenuative yeast strain would do the trick (wy1318, 1187, etc.).

 
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:23 PM   #6
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Water chemistry! What is your water like? Are you adding Gypsum/Cal Chloride? Get the hops to showcase better.

 
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:34 PM   #7
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All I do is carbon filter the water. Here is a profile from last year.

Mg 8.33 mg/L
Ca 29.7 mg/L
Na 8.52 mg/L
S04 31.2 mg/L
Cl 9.50 mg/L
Total Hardness: 104 mg/L
Total Alkalinity: 76 mg/L
Carbonate Alkalinity: 0 mg/L
Bicarbonate Alkalinity: 76 mg/L
Non-Carbonate Hardness: 28 mg/L
pH in pH units: 7.76

Any suggestions?

 
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:36 PM   #8
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http://www.ezwatercalculator.com/

I didn't plug in your info, but off the top of my head I'd be following AJ Delanges suggestions in the Water primer thread/Brew Science. Works well for all my beers.



 
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