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Old 04-04-2007, 05:46 AM   #1
San Jose State University
Mar 2007
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I'm a beginner to say the least, but I have a high interest and I feel I'm learning quickly.

However, I have one important question: How does the beer that you homebrew compare to the premium commercial beers available?

To be clear, I want to know what you really think, from a 3rd person perspective, how good the beer is. What's "good"? Purely opinion. If you bought your own homebrew in a supermarket, how would you compare it to other premium brews?

I want to know this because I want to know what to exect from my brew once I gain more experience, skill, and intuition. Of course not everybody is the same, but I'd hope that I could eventually make beer that tastes better than premium commercial beers according to MY tastes.

I want to imagine a beer flavor and brew something that's mighty close to it.

That's my goal... I just want to know how practical it is.

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Old 04-04-2007, 05:48 AM   #2
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This topic comes around every now and then. My first response was that I wanted to follow in the footsteps of my bootlegging grandma. Now, I do it because I want to make David Hasselhoff cry.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:10 PM   #3
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I do it to support my habit, and because I brew excellent beer that is as good if not better then most commercial breweries.

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Old 04-04-2007, 12:18 PM   #4
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I started just to see if I could brew something good- and now my husband complains about commercial beer! I can make what I like- IPAs are my favorite, and some are close to the original, or I like better than the original (like my DG clone, and DFH) and some are nothing like any commercial beer. I've made some things that you'd never find in a store but that we just love.

I've made everything from rhubarb wine (excellent, by the way) to maibock. Nothing was terrible except maybe tomato wine and I'm reserving judgement on that.

I would put my DFH clone up against the original any day, and my husband and I like it better. But, it does have chill haze. Doesn't bother me enough to cold condition it, so I'm drinking it. My Dead Guy clone got great reviews in the beer swap: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=23405

I'm kind of a perfectionist, and I wouldn't do it if my beer and wine were just "ok". I like homebrew better and that's why I do it.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:22 PM   #5
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Jan 2007
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I do it to support my habit
same here, and its no easy to find good beers here where I live in PA. By chance if you do it on avreage 9.50 a 6 pack!
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:25 PM   #6
Dec 2006
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Taste/flavor - just like my burgers off the grill compared to McDonalds. Course there are plenty of restruants that make great steaks and burgers but mine rock and I can make them any way I want. Medimum rare that is actually medium rare!

Because I can - I like to do things for myself...build my own stuff, change my own oil and cut my own dam grass.

...and lastly making and drinking beer is fun

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Old 04-04-2007, 12:34 PM   #7
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I brew because I know it takes much more than great homebrew to make a great homebrewer. A world-class homebrewer thrives on innovation, and has an adventurous spirit that is never reluctant to experiment with new ways of brewing -- and stuff. Such a spirit is a big part of the homebrewings culture.

Homebrewing conjures up an image of cool mountain streams, clear blue skies and all that is inspiring about your kitchen, deck or patio. It is a pastime associated with an uncomprimising commitment to quality--a reputation that began before 6:45 yesterday morning and thrives to this day.

This is why I brew.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:44 PM   #8
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Mar 2007
Austin Texas
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I started again because I really needed a hobby. The dollar to homebrew ratio isn't that important to me since in the 3 months since I grabbed my old carboy out of storage I've already spent more dough than I would in a year of drinking (ok, make that half a year).
The process is interesting and I learn something new each time I make a batch.
My brews haven't been stellar, yet, but all have been very tasty.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:54 PM   #9
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Charlottesville, VA
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There's no quick answer to this question. Why homebrew?

Well, for one, it's cheaper---even for me, and I work at a fine wine/beer shop and get pretty much any beer out there for 5% over wholesale. I started brewing last July. At first, it was all I could do to not drink all of it quickly. But over the course of 6 months, I brewed 120 gallons of beer. Now I have stacks of cases taller than I am, and can't drink it fast enough. I rarely buy commercial anymore, and while the initial investment in the ingredients and equipment cost me, it's made up for it now.

But even if it cost more, I'd brew anyway. My brews might not always turn out better than commercial breweries (I've only been brewing for 9 months or so), but some do. My chocolate-coffee stout, for example, kicks the nuts off of any commercial coffee stout I've ever tasted. Some of my brews have turned out mediocre, some have turned out hideous/infected. But for the most part, they rock.

But above all else, it's about making stuff myself. I remember the first sip from the first bottle of my first brew. There was something life-altering in that moment---I was an artisan, a craftsman. I made a basil beer, with basil from my own garden, and my extended family all wanted to place orders. This was really something I could get addicted to. And I did. Now I love to brew just for its own sake. I have, probably, 20 cases of homebrew backstock, but I still wake up at 4:45am on a Saturday and stand in the dark, freezing cold on my patio waiting for the strike temp, pounding The Hold Steady for all my neighborhood.

And there's also that little part about sharing it with friends and family...
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:59 PM   #10
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I brew because I lived in Europe and learned what real beer is supposed to taste like.

To brew the beers I liked best. I am actually saving money and producing a healty product that is enjoyable to drink.
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