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Old 08-14-2011, 11:48 PM   #1
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My parents 40th anniversary is 2 years away and I would like to give them something champagne like as a present. Obviously most wine kits would work to make a bubbly I am however stuck when it comes to getting the carbonation in the bottle without using a bottle fermentation. Any suggestions on how to get it to reach the appropriate level of carbonation without leaving a bunch of sediment on the bottom?

 
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:54 PM   #2
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buy a chardonnay kit, make it as directed, keg it, at 20psi for two weeks, get a blichmann beer gun and fill some 22oz bottles the week of the anniversary.

 
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:55 PM   #3
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No, unless you want to try méthode champenoise, or disgorging the lees after keeping the bottles upside down and then recapping really quick to maintain CO2. Way more trouble than I'd try to do, but you may decide it's worth it.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:56 PM   #4
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Méthode Champenoise.

Could be fun or a huge disaster. I know other homebrewers have done it: http://www.maltosefalcons.com/tech/m...ampenoise-beer.

 
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:37 PM   #5
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It'll be a toss up on the keg or bottle condition I don't think I'll be doing the méthode champenoise for this batch.

 
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:42 PM   #6
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Filling from a keg could work. But, champagne is usually VERY carbonated, over 5 volumes probably. Bottling something that carbonated from a keg will be a project in itself. I have tried bottling 3.5 volume Belgian beers, and it was a little tough. YMMV of course, I would suggest practicing with highly carbonated water or something before you go to bottling your hard work.

 
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:17 PM   #7
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You're gonna need champagne bottles too, they can take a much higher pressure than regular bottles. Either you're already aware of this, or that could have been a massive disaster.

 
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:07 AM   #8
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how would Cooper Carbonation Drops work? My local shop just got a supply in and suggested it as I was getting the bottles.

 
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:10 AM   #9
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how would Cooper Carbonation Drops work? My local shop just got a supply in and suggested it as I was getting the bottles.
That would work great. Except it'd be just like priming sugar, so you'd get a ton of sediment in the bottom of the bottle. It's yucky in something like champagne, because you don't usually empty the bottle in one pour like you do with beer. Each lift of the bottle would resuspend the sediment, making each pour full of floating stuff.
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:17 AM   #10
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might just want to get a decent wine and cellar it for a couple years. turns decent stuff into good stuff
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