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Old 08-07-2011, 11:55 PM   #1
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Default 2nd brew-advice needed

My first brew was an amber wheat. Very easy and came out tasty. My second venture is a little higher on the alcohol scale. I am makind a Helles doppelbock (abita andygator) if any of you are familiar. My local crew told me to follow the same instructions. Primary 4 days- secondary 2 weeks and then bottle.
My question is how long SHOULD I let it sit in the bottles.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:03 AM   #2
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As in before you drink it? I'd say 3 weeks, that's my rule of thumb, but you could always try it sooner, if it tastes carbonated enough for you, drink it.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:22 AM   #3
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yes...sorry about that, I did mean how long should it sit in the bottles before I drink it.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:25 AM   #4
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Is a Helles a lager?
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I'd change your local crew.
That is a strong (8% ABV) lager.
If you are brewing it as a lager, you will probably need about 2 - 3 weeks in primary, followed by several months in secondary for lagering (lager is the German word for store. i.e. it has to be stored for a prolonged period at near freezing temperatures) and it will then take several months bottle conditioning before it is ready to drink.
I suspect they sold you a light colored ale, which will not taste the same, but is easier to brew. For an ale, you will need 3 - 4 WEEKS in the primary. You probably won't need a secondary at all, and if it's anything like 8% ABV, it will require several months of bottle conditioning.

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Old 08-08-2011, 02:22 AM   #6
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3lb of Cooper's European lager malt extract
4lb of Munich liquid malt extract
1 oz of Hallertau Mittelfruch Hops
30m boil
3-4 day primary and I just racked into secondary
very pretty...a little darker than my first dark wheat so far
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2nd brew excitement if you ask me.
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Only 3-4 days in the primary? Smh
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Bradford......are you lagering this one? A lager requires pretty much a minimum of about 2-3 months at a pretty strictly controlled 34-36 degrees, followed by a bit of conditioning at about 50 degrees.

If you ferment this like an ale, which is what it looks like you are doing, then it is not going to be a Helles Lager, it is going to look and taste more like a Blonde Ale.

Should be a good beer either way, just want to curb your expectations. Lagers are one of the more difficult styles to make, and among the most time consuming.
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3-4 days in primary? I wonder if it was finished with primary fermentation. Did you take several gravity reading over a couple of days to see that it finished?

As said a lager would be cold conditioned for months.
If ale conditioned I would leave it in secondary at least 3 weeks based on the very short primary. Then bottle condition a week and try ONE. wait another week and try another. Don't rush things. It will probably keep getting better with age.
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