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Old 05-29-2013, 03:35 PM   #221
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Here you can sort of see my setup for the vines to climb.

How many should be trained from each plant? I have three vines I believe, on most hops. Found some ladybugs!!! Keep those bugs away! Looks like already been having some chewing on the sterling plant. Organocide has been ordered. What are recommended fertilizers? I have some fish emulsion that's a bit old, and man does it smell horrendous!!

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Old 05-29-2013, 04:16 PM   #222
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You may want to cancel that Organocide order. Ladybugs are considered highly beneficial. Some organic growers actually buy them by the thousands and let them loose on their crops! (They eat up the aphids that eat your hops). Unless the Organocide is safe for ladybugs?

Fertilizers higher in nitrogen are recommended for the early growth stage of hops. You can then switch to less nitrogen when sidearms start showing, increase phosphorous. High nitrogen late in the game reduces the lupulin production in hops.

Not sure if they are, but if these are first year plants, don't trim any bines off, train them all up to help establish a strong crown. You can trim the bottom leaves off to keep the base of the plant drier and less friendly to insects/fungus once the plants are tall enough where it wouldn't hurt them too much.

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Old 05-29-2013, 04:41 PM   #223
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You may want to cancel that Organocide order. Ladybugs are considered highly beneficial. Some organic growers actually buy them by the thousands and let them loose on their crops! (They eat up the aphids that eat your hops). Unless the Organocide is safe for ladybugs?

Fertilizers higher in nitrogen are recommended for the early growth stage of hops. You can then switch to less nitrogen when sidearms start showing, increase phosphorous. High nitrogen late in the game reduces the lupulin production in hops.

Not sure if they are, but if these are first year plants, don't trim any bines off, train them all up to help establish a strong crown. You can trim the bottom leaves off to keep the base of the plant drier and less friendly to insects/fungus once the plants are tall enough where it wouldn't hurt them too much.
I knew ladybugs were good, but I only saw a single insect. Ill keep my eyes peeled for more, and other bugs as well.

Thanks for the fertilizer advice. I know they give three numbers for fertilizers, but I don't recall what they stand for. Probably nitrogen, phosphorous, and some other nutrient amount. Are you able to elaborate? I used miracle gro potting moisture control mix cause it was the cheapest. I think it has some fertilizer in already. How soon can I supplement additional fertilizer?

These are first year plants. Too late on trimming the the bines. I will not trim any further now that I know.

Thanks for the expertise!

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Old 05-29-2013, 05:03 PM   #224
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Gotcha, I misunderstood the bug sentence. N-P-K are the fertilizer numbers. Nitrogen-Phosphorous-Potassium. That miracle grow soil is good, it's what I used to start off some rhizomes last year which are now in the ground and doing exceptionally well. I just used fish emulsion starting around 3 months from when the bines first broke. I added that once a month until the side arms showed up.

Growth stage suggested NPK ratio: 2-1-2
Flowering stage suggested NPK ratio: 1-3-2

This is what I use and it works for me. Anyone agree/disagree?

There is an awesome post by gridlocked here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/my-h...roject-176340/

He explains what he used and it sure looks like it worked! He's got one hell of a backyard hop garden.

 
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:09 PM   #225
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The Teamaker hops have come back with a vengeance.



Willamette died off a bit and is starting to come back.



Columbus was covered in mildew and was dying, I trimmed it back, put in the drip irrigation and used neem oil on it.



Magnum was stinted a bit, but is now growing good again.



Overall... you can see the teamaker on the end is taking off like crazy now.



Cheers!

 
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Old 06-02-2013, 06:14 PM   #226
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Gotcha, I misunderstood the bug sentence. N-P-K are the fertilizer numbers. Nitrogen-Phosphorous-Potassium. That miracle grow soil is good, it's what I used to start off some rhizomes last year which are now in the ground and doing exceptionally well. I just used fish emulsion starting around 3 months from when the bines first broke. I added that once a month until the side arms showed up.

Growth stage suggested NPK ratio: 2-1-2
Flowering stage suggested NPK ratio: 1-3-2

This is what I use and it works for me. Anyone agree/disagree?

There is an awesome post by gridlocked here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/my-h...roject-176340/

He explains what he used and it sure looks like it worked! He's got one hell of a backyard hop garden.
Those numbers look about right. Just check if the nutes are slow release or not. Fish emulsion isn't slow release so the plants get a nice boost whenever you use it. I'd stick to somewhere between every other week to once a month. As well when your getting near harvest your going to want to stop giving them any nutes to flush the plants.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:17 AM   #227
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Finally seeing some green!
And now the longest bine is over 13 ft long with 3 others no to far behind!
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:31 PM   #228
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:27 PM   #229
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Looks like I'm getting to where I need some fertilizer. I saw the recommended early and late stage NPK levels. Any recommended brands? I have some probably dried up and rock hard Fertrell 2-1-1 and 3-1-1 made of fish and seaweed. I think is probably too dried and hardened to use.

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Old 06-06-2013, 02:19 PM   #230
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Any brand of fish emulsion should do fine.


Here's a couple pics of some early cones I've got. Hopefully it will stop raining for a day so I can give the bines a spray down with Organocide.


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