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Old 07-28-2011, 08:03 PM   #11
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No originally when I drew up the diagram I was going to use 4 separate outlets, instead I used regular 20 amp outlets and cut the bridge in the middle. So the 4 on each side are the outlets. Only two of them use the SSRs for the element, both are controlled by one PID. I know what I did, however I'm not good with the wiring diagrams. More or less there just for me to visualize. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 07-29-2011, 02:32 PM   #12
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Ok, I think I sort of figured out your setup. I drew a diagram that I thinks represents it the way it is now:

(Click on the image to see a full scale diagram that is printable on Tabloid pater 11" x 17".)





Then if you decided to go to a 240V outlet the wiring diagram becomes this:






It would be fairly easy for you to change the elements to a higher wattage and then add control switches so that you can use the same basic setup to go to a 2 kettle system.

Hope this helps you.

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Old 07-29-2011, 02:45 PM   #13
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Yup, that's actually perfect, only thing missing is I have a switch cutting power to each of the SSRs so I can turn the elements off independently. Looks easy enough to switch it up though.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:02 PM   #14
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If you make those switches you mention on-off-on, with the center going to the SSR and put a 6-12v supply on the unused ON terminal and you will have HOA (Hand-OFF-Auto) for PID override in both on and off.

 
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:32 PM   #15
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Yup, that's actually perfect, only thing missing is I have a switch cutting power to each of the SSRs so I can turn the elements off independently. Looks easy enough to switch it up though.
Just refresh your browser. I added the switches to the diagram.

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Old 07-29-2011, 06:34 PM   #16
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watts are watts, you dont save money using half the current at twice the voltage. It wont save you any money in electricity.

 
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:49 PM   #17
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watts are watts, you dont save money using half the current at twice the voltage. It wont save you any money in electricity.
Very true.

However: it does make the setup a lot easier to manage and control. Plus: with the proper setup it is also somewhat safer during the brew session.

 
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:28 PM   #18
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I'm planning an upgrade here in the future and the 240v is the route I'll take. Then I'm adding a third kettle for the boil and using propane. The rest will be electric. Going to do a three tier like the B32050. I like the idea of only one plug. Less hard wired electrical I'll have to have done. Lucky my BIL is an electrician.

Thanks for all the input!
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