Super-Yeast, or is something else going on?) - Page 3 - Home Brew Forums
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Super-Yeast, or is something else going on?)
Cool Brewing Giveaway - Supporting Membership Drive & Discount

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-30-2007, 10:16 AM   #21
Denny's Evil Concoctions
Grande Megalomaniac
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Denny's Evil Concoctions's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2005
West Kelowna BC, Canada
Posts: 7,736
Liked 65 Times on 51 Posts


Only way I could see is if you have something that is breaking down the unfermentable sugars into fermentables post boil.

Since your flavor is clean... it boggles my mind. In theory there are some flavorless bacteria or wild yeast, fungi etc that can do this, but they are really rare. There's one at the top of my brain I read about last year. Can't remember the name. Regardless..it's very rare. It's got to be something else more simple.

Only other thing is an enzyme like amylase or the one in beano. But then how would they have gotten into your feremeting beer in the first place?


__________________
I may not be an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express........ 6 months ago.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/denn...9/#post1766281

http://groups.homebrewtalk.com/Tapro...ook_Repository

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2007, 04:44 PM   #22
shlap
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 166
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


Well, my buddy is a PHD in bio-chemical engineering and works in the ethenol business; he thinks I found a wild strain of yeast that eats a type of sugar that most other yeasts wont. I'm going to send him some of the kolsch yeast cake out of my secondary (since i already threw out my primary cake). He's going to isolate any strain of yeast or bacteria and see what might be causing it. Hopefully a wild (clean tasting) yeast is responsible!



 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 04:48 AM   #23
shlap
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 166
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


A quick update. I just tested my new Refractometer with a little help from BTP and my FG on the Kolsch came out the same... 1.003. It tasted clean as a whistle though!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 08:19 AM   #24
Catfish
Art by David Shrigley
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Catfish's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jul 2005
Nishinomiya, Japan
Posts: 840
Liked 15 Times on 3 Posts


Can I have some?
__________________
鯰 a.k.a. なまず a.k.a. Catfish

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 12:24 PM   #25
Bobby_M
Vendor and Brewer
HBT_SPONSOR.png
 
Bobby_M's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2006
Whitehouse Station, NJ
Posts: 22,977
Liked 1584 Times on 1021 Posts


I'd propagate the Sh1t out of that and sell it as the Beano Strain.
__________________
Welcome to BrewHardware.com. I love you.
BIAB Large Mesh False Bottoms and SS HERMS COILS are IN!!
Chugger Pumps, Pump Kits, Camlocks, Sightglasses, Clear USA made Silicone Tubing, RIMS, Electric Install Parts, etc.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 01:09 PM   #26
Lil' Sparky
Cowboys EAC
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Lil' Sparky's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Honolulu, HI
Posts: 3,952
Liked 69 Times on 44 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby_M
I'd propagate the Sh1t out of that and sell it as the Beano Strain.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 09:04 PM   #27
Denny's Evil Concoctions
Grande Megalomaniac
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Denny's Evil Concoctions's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2005
West Kelowna BC, Canada
Posts: 7,736
Liked 65 Times on 51 Posts


Any word from your scientist buddy?
__________________
I may not be an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express........ 6 months ago.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/denn...9/#post1766281

http://groups.homebrewtalk.com/Tapro...ook_Repository


 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 09:24 PM   #28
shlap
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 166
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


I haven't sent him a sample yet as the Kolsch is still sitting in the secondary. I think I'll move it off the cake tonight, wash the cake a little, and send him a sample tomorrow.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2007, 09:31 PM   #29
Denny's Evil Concoctions
Grande Megalomaniac
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Denny's Evil Concoctions's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2005
West Kelowna BC, Canada
Posts: 7,736
Liked 65 Times on 51 Posts


Most likely you have a Saccharomyces diastaticus super attenuator wild yeast strain. This yeast strain is now being looked at for rapid ethonal fuel production. Hard to find any info on that strain. Though this strain tends to impart phenolic flavors.

If your contamination is occuring after transfer to the secondary, this may be the reason you are tasting "clean" beer as it would only be crunching on the dextrins. I dunno.

http://brewingtechniques.com/library...llentable.html
The link above lists it as also a haze producer.

[EDIT: Second link stopped working]
__________________
I may not be an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express........ 6 months ago.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/denn...9/#post1766281

http://groups.homebrewtalk.com/Tapro...ook_Repository


 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2007, 06:28 AM   #30
Ó Flannagáin
Registered User
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
Wichita Falls, Tx
Posts: 2,998
Liked 29 Times on 21 Posts


I agree about progating it. Could be nice to have for certain beer styles.



 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trying to brew a super high gravity beer with white labs yeast... kingbb69 Extract Brewing 12 12-05-2009 04:59 PM
Best Yeast for super malty taste? ApolloSpeed Recipes/Ingredients 9 03-25-2009 03:47 PM
SUPER YEAST 40 proof (20%abv) Old_Brewer General Techniques 10 01-07-2008 03:52 PM
super noob mistake, killing yeast with high gravity? miatawnt2b Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 6 10-16-2007 12:44 PM
Super Yeast Alcopops mileswilliams Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 07-08-2006 01:22 PM


Forum Jump