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Old 07-21-2011, 01:57 PM   #1
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Default Need advice on AHS Grain Belt Clone kit

Decided to try my first all grain lager recipe so I ordered a kit of my favorite lawn mower beer (Grain Belt). I typed the recipe into BeerSmith and have a couple of questions on the results given by BeerSmith:

Recipe: AHS
6 lbs 6-Row
2 lbs Flaked maize
1/2 lb. Carapils
1 oz Tettnang (60 min)
1 oz Perle (15 min)
American Lager 2035
estimated SG: 1.045
estimated IBU: 32.1

1. The IBU/SG ratio is estimated to be 0.714 which seems very high for a lager. From what I know Tettnang is usually used for aroma and Perle for bittering and here they seem to have reversed roles. Switching these would raise the IBU/SG which would not make sense to me. Does anyone have a good idea of the proper IBU/SG ratio for an American Lager?

2. This is the first recipe I have made using 6-row. Is the flavor profile of 6 row all that different than 2 row? I was thinking of adding some 2 row to this recipe to adjust the SG but I am not sure if 6 row and 2 row can be combined together w/o making off flavors.

3. Should I use the same procedure for making a yeast starter for a lager that I used for making ales? How about washing the yeast after fermentation, will I use the same basic method for a lager as an ale?

Thanks for any input you might have to share.


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My classic american lager is at .659 and it's 10 ibu under the "style" guidelines, and it's a great summer beer.

Ahs kits are pretty solid, brew it as is. Lagers need a BIG starter, refer to Mr. Malty.

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What's the AAUs of the tettnang? That makes a difference in the IBUs. What does AHS say the IBUs are for that recipe?
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Which "style guideline" are you refering to? I tried this under "Premium American Lager" in BeerSmith and that has a max IBU of 25. Thus, I think I might be using the wrong style guideline.

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Which "style guideline" are you refering to? I tried this under "Premium American Lager" in BeerSmith and that has a max IBU of 25. Thus, I think I might be using the wrong style guideline.

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2c, Classic American Pilsner. BJCP guidelines

Lagers in America in the 50's actually had some hops in it, great stuff.


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What's the AAUs of the tettnang? That makes a difference in the IBUs. What does AHS say the IBUs are for that recipe?
The Tettnang hops packages have 4.8% listed on them. I used 4.5% from previous beersmith entries. There is no IBU rating listed on either the instruction sheet by AHS or their website listing.
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You're over thinking this. Make a big starter, brew recipe as is, control your fermentation temps. Your beer will be fine, if you have good water that is.


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OK...being that this is my first lager recipe and grain to glass takes several months I can see that I have been over thinking this.


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