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Old 07-19-2011, 07:48 PM   #1
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Just came across this news story about some villages banning and arresting people making alcohol.

http://www.adn.com/2011/07/18/197381...catch-the.html

I understand in certain areas alcoholism can get out of control but this is off the charts.

Didn't know if we had any alaska brewers to give us a little feedback about this or if it affects them getting supplies.

 
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:54 PM   #2
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There have been dry villages in AK for years. They all have different levels of bans. Alcoholism is a big problem in small remote communites and while I disagree with the methods tribal governments are trying to combat it.

The larger populations centers do not have these restrictions, it again applies in most cases to very remote villages.

 
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:57 PM   #3
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from the article:

" . . . home-brew, a cloudy, intoxicating liquid often mixed with fruit juice."

Sounds like they're just mixing sugar, water, and baker's yeast and going for it. Someone should tell them to get hold of a decent dry ale or wine yeast and ferment the juice. Maybe I'll quit my job and start running yeast and fermenters to the villages.

 
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:05 PM   #4
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If it affects them I doubt they'd want to respond.

 
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:10 PM   #5
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The article and/or comments points to the fact that the creators of brew in these communities are going for intoxication, not flavor.

I hope to never live in a community where residents vote to have this or similar "moral" control over others.

 
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:12 PM   #6
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The article and/or comments points to the fact that the creators of brew in these communities are going for intoxication, not flavor.
Yea, I picked up on that. Much humor dies when it hits the web.

 
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:15 PM   #7
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As a former resident I can tell you this is nothing new. As mentioned above, in many of the native villages the elders have banned alcohol of any kind. The State Troopers and the Native Police enforce the ban.
You can be fined and imprisoned for bringing alcohol in to the villages. So for years the natives have been making 'homebrew.' This is little more than prison hooch. It's made in trash bags hung under floor, old fuel cans, yes in a least one case in the toilet. All they want is the alcohol.
This is not even close to what we call homebrew.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:41 PM   #8
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As a former resident I can tell you this is nothing new. As mentioned above, in many of the native villages the elders have banned alcohol of any kind. The State Troopers and the Native Police enforce the ban.
You can be fined and imprisoned for bringing alcohol in to the villages. So for years the natives have been making 'homebrew.' This is little more than prison hooch. It's made in trash bags hung under floor, old fuel cans, yes in a least one case in the toilet. All they want is the alcohol.
This is not even close to what we call homebrew.
THIS. And it is a problem that people contributing to this thread are likely going to be unable to relate to in any significant way. This is Native American tribal governments attempting to control what amounts to a cultural plague. It's of no relevance to our culture, and tribal governments are completely empowered by treaty with the U.S. to exercise control in these matters. Discussions by us are both moot and futile.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:08 PM   #9
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This is the type of thing that happens when you try to stay in your ancient world surrounded by modernity.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:29 PM   #10
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I've seen show's about this for years on the res,as they call them. My G-G-G grandfather was a Chiracaua Apache chief. I'm proud to be able to say one side of my family has been here for some 35,000 years. But their treatment has been horrid.
I realize this is a plague in their culture,but being decedents of a stone age culture that gave us beer to start with,seems weird. Beer is what caused man to settle down from hunting/gathering. It's history as they're finding it in newly discovered artifacts & their processing/testing. Micro biology has it's merits.
They just need some self control,I guess. Beer is now known to have pre-dated bread by about 3,000 years!
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