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Old 09-27-2005, 05:33 PM   #1
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how do you guys do your sterilization? It just seems weird to me to clean all of my stuff and then leave it setting on a clean dish towel on my kitchen cabinet. Surely the dish towels not really sterile?

Also, how do you get the beer flowing on racking and bottling day without sucking on the tube? I've tried filling it with sterilizing solution, but I always end up with air pockets in the tube.


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Old 09-27-2005, 05:40 PM   #2
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We're not trying to be STERILE, we are trying to be SANITARY.

Someone else put it well in a previous thread by stating that if we required STERILE conditions, we would all be dressed like surgeons while we brew.

It would be terribly difficult to drink a beer while wearing one of those masks.

It's perfectly fine to clean your stuff and let it sit on a clean dish towel until needed (provided you are going to use it within a few hours.)

Hell, think of what brewing conditions were like in (for example) 1600 AD. They didn't even know what germs and microbes WERE, and the idea of washing your hands was totally alien. They made beer just fine back then.

As for the siphoning question... I can answer this provided I know what kind of gear you are using? Do you have carboys for fermenters and a bucket for bottling?

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Old 09-27-2005, 05:50 PM   #3
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actually.. regardless of the type of equipment you have, 9 out of 10 people here are going to tell you to get an autosiphon. You stick it in the beer and pump the handle once and the beer starts flowing through the attached hose. They are fairly inexpensive.

Here's a link:
http://www.beer-wine.com/product_inf...13&sectionID=1

The other 10% of the people (myself included) use various methods to start siphons.

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Yeah, I'll probably pick one of those up. I primary in a plastic bucket, and secondary in a glass carboy. I have been sucking on it and then sticking in a bucket of cleanser.
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you can buy a carboy cap for less than $2. This is what I use.



to start the siphon from carboy back to bottling bucket, insert the racking cane through the shorter/wider tube on the cap, place the cap on the carboy, then gently blow through the longer tube on the cap to push the beer up and out of the cane/hose.

edit: same procedure can be used to get from bucket to carboy, but you SUCK on the longer tube and it pulls beer from the bucket through the hose.

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actually.. regardless of the type of equipment you have, 9 out of 10 people here are going to tell you to get an autosiphon. You stick it in the beer and pump the handle once and the beer starts flowing through the attached hose. They are fairly inexpensive.

Here's a link:
http://www.beer-wine.com/product_inf...13&sectionID=1

The other 10% of the people (myself included) use various methods to start siphons.

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I've been using the ol' suck-the-beer-through-a-tube-until-it-starts-coming-out method. lol. probably not the best.

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We're not trying to be STERILE, we are trying to be SANITARY.

Hell, think of what brewing conditions were like in (for example) 1600 AD. They didn't even know what germs and microbes WERE, and the idea of washing your hands was totally alien. They made beer just fine back then.

THANK YOU!!!!

I've been trying to get this point across for some time now. Most people on here say they would rather err on the side of caution and overkill the whole cleanliness thing. And to some extent I can see their point, but we need to put things into perspective.

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Yup. Let me impart a small story about my VERY first batch of beer.

October 1997; No Fail Pale Ale w/ raspberry extract. Glass primary, no secondary.

Everything went just fine until it came time for bottling. I put my hose into the carboy to start the siphon into the bottling bucket and sucked with gusto. I was nealing over top of the bottling bucket as I did this so I could quickly shove the hose into it when the flow started.

I was slammed with a mouthful of trub, which contained quite a bit of hop pellet dust. I choked. Hard.

In fact, I choked so hard on that mouthful of nastiness, that I spewed it all RIGHT INTO THE BOTTLING BUCKET, complete with my own drool. I then fell over coughing while the siphon continued to flow.

I thought for SURE that the batch was ruined because of this disaster.

You know what? The beer was excellent. EXCELLENT.

I have never worried too much about sanitation since that first experience.

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Maybe you should spit in each batch!

I'm on my fifth batch, but my first two turned out horribly and rightly or wrongly I've blamed it on sanitation.

My wife says that now that I'm brewing again, I'm anal about exactly 4 things, fishing gear, hunting gear, camping gear and beer gear.
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Maybe you should spit in each batch!

Hey, I'll tell you what... those friends that were present when this happened were not to keen on drinking any of that batch, so I got to keep most of it for myself.


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