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Old 06-29-2011, 04:39 PM   #11
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That's a big depends. Depending on the area that you live in, you can pull a permit and do it yourself. You then have it inspected & you are good to go. The only thing that needs to be handled by an electrician (or DIY with a permit) is the wiring & install of the power outlet for the brewery. Everything beyond the outlet - no problem. IMHO.
MMB was simply saying he was concerned with insurance liabilities if using gas. I was simply pointing out the same risks for electric. His preference to brew outside (to avoid either scenario/risk) is nice and all, but that was not part of the OP's question or considerations.
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:33 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the information. I'll probably stick with NG and find a better way to evacuate the heat during the summer months.

And I understand the concerns with fire and that is why I am very careful. The room is drywalled, which never gets hot from the burners and I have a CO2 detector in the room and an extinguisher on hand if needed.

I'll take the heat for the convenience of having everything I need right there and not have to worry about weather conditions outside to brew.
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:45 PM   #13
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Dude go electric, you'll never regret it. I just brewed last week, it was 95f outside, and 74f in my brew room at full boil, it's awesome.

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Old 06-29-2011, 05:50 PM   #14
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Dude go electric, you'll never regret it. I just brewed last week, it was 95f outside, and 74f in my brew room at full boil, it's awesome.

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Oh thanks, now I may change my mind again. I would like to do electric someday, but I think the cost outweighs the need right now. A few months of brewing in a hot room is tolerable vs. spending $100's right now. In the winter I open a few windows adjacent to the brew room and it is down right cozy.
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Oh thanks, now I may change my mind again. I would like to do electric someday, but I think the cost outweighs the need right now. A few months of brewing in a hot room is tolerable vs. spending $100's right now. In the winter I open a few windows adjacent to the brew room and it is down right cozy.
Plus you live in Wisconsin, it's only hot for a month out of the year. All things considered, i'd still go electric even if heat wasn't an issue, it's so glorious.

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Plus you live in Wisconsin, it's only hot for a month out of the year. All things considered, i'd still go electric even if heat wasn't an issue, it's so glorious.

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Exactly. Someday I'll go electric run off of my solar panels that I will put on the roof.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:12 PM   #17
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I've done stove top, propane, ng & electric.

Electric easily wins on indoor convenience as I hate being outside and fighting with the yellow jackets and other pests who like beer. As to costs, how much could it really amount to over a years time for a casual home brewer?

For pizza - outdoor NG, tinkered with to 900F can't be beat unless you go wood burning oven. A bit off topic but I love the pizza as much as the beer.

 
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:18 PM   #18
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Thanks P-J. I've seen many of your posts on electric brewing and am considering it very much. I am good with basic wiring and think I can do it all, but just don't know where to start. I have one 15 gal. brew pot and one 12 gal. hlt now and don't know if I should convert them or start with new pots including adding a mash tun and another pump or what.
Your brew pot is good & the HLT is just fine as well. No need to throw money away. Going electric is not ALL that expensive. You already have the kettles and a pump. You do not really need a second pump & this all can be operated as a single level setup. If you want a separate mash tun, just go and buy a 10 gallon Rubbermaid drinking water cooler. As far as the expense on the PID and other controller items, you are looking at about $230 for the setup. This includes the PID, SSR, temperature probe and connectors, controller case, switches and a couple of heating elements. (Plus a little more for wire.)

It's not all that bad but something that only you can decide. If you do decide to have a go at it, I'd be glad to make a custom diagram for your setup.

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Your brew pot is good & the HLT is just fine as well. No need to throw money away. Going electric is not ALL that expensive. You already have the kettles and a pump. You do not really need a second pump & this all can be operated as a single level setup. If you want a separate mash tun, just go and buy a 10 gallon Rubbermaid drinking water cooler. As far as the expense on the PID and other controller items, you are looking at about $230 for the setup. This includes the PID, SSR, temperature probe and connectors, controller case, switches and a couple of heating elements. (Plus a little more for wire.)

It's not all that bad but something that only you can decide. If you do decide to have a go at it, I'd be glad to make a custom diagram for your setup.

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You're awesome. I downloaded your excel spreadsheet that you created for another member as well as your wiring schematic. Is this what is needed to make it happen?

I already have a 48qt. mash tun, but was thinking of making one out of a kettle with a false bottom so I could do more step mashes.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:40 PM   #20
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Basically - yes. For your setup there are things that you don't need at all.
Multifunction timer
Indicator Lights 125V
One of the switches would be change to a different type (close to the same cost)
One switch is eliminated
And a second 5500W element added. (plus a few incidentals)
I come up with $237.91 on the sheet.

I'm not sure but I think the diagram might be for a BIAB system. Yours would be a little different.

 
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