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Old 06-16-2011, 10:04 PM   #1
Arska
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Im planning my next ipa recipe and just got 100g (3,52oz) packages each of Nelson Sauvin, Riwaka, Simcoe, Amarillo and Citra.

Maltbill is going to be something simple like:

85% palemalt
5% münich
5% biscuit
5% cara60l

But what about the hops?

 
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:40 PM   #2
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Not an expert, but most people stay away from Citra for bittering and leave it as aroma/flavor. My last Citra IPA did well in comp and the judge said "passionfruit" flavor, so that's definitely a hop you should feature as flavor/aroma. Haven't worked too much with the other hops.

 
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:22 PM   #3
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I haven't used the NZ hops before so I may not be much help, but...
If you're looking for tropical I'd use as much Citra and Riwaka at 15min - to whirlpool as possible, dry hop with more Citra/Amarillo, and skip the Simcoe unless you need it to boost the IBUs early in the boil. Simcoe is very "piney" to me. I really like Simcoe, it just doesn't seem tropical. Also, I'd keep the IBU/SG ratio around 0.8. I think with these hops and the tropical theme it would be better to showcase the flavor and aroma more than the bitterness.

No idea what to do with Nelson Sauvin. Just know it's supposed to be grapey.

 
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:28 PM   #4
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I've used Riwaka in a SMaSH and it has a bright orange flavor and aroma. I'm curious to try Calypso
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:35 AM   #5
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If you want something tropical, I say go with citra. I'm drinking a glass of all-citra IPA as I post this...tastes of delicious mango. Many of my friends have noted it is unlike any IPA they have had before.

 
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:10 PM   #6
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Im finally planning to brew this. Hop schedule looks like this:
60min: Simcoe for 30ibu
10min: 40g/1,4oz Riwaka + 15g/0,5oz Nelson Sauvin+15g/0,5oz Amarillo
5min: 20g/0,7oz Citra+ 15g/0,5oz Nelson Sauvin+15g/0,5oz Amarillo
0min: 25g/0,88oz Citra+25g/0,88oz Riwaka+15g/0,5oz Nelson Sauvin+15g/0,5oz Amarillo
Dryhops: 25g/0,88oz Citra+25g/0,88oz Riwaka+15g/0,5oz Nelson Sauvin+15g/0,5oz Amarillo

Im just thinking is this a bit over the top, or too complicated? will the taste and aroma be kind of "indistinct"?

 
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:16 PM   #7
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I would do constant hoping of cirtra, amarillo, ahtanum, and sorachi ace. DH with an ounze each too.

0.5 oz each Citra, Amarillo, Ahtanum, Sorachi Ace
Bitter with something like Chinook
Late addition with 0.5 oz each
DH with an oz each

 
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:16 PM   #8
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I did an NZ IPA a while back that used columbus for bittering and amarillo/motueka/nelson sauvin for additions from 25 min to flameout that turned out fantastic. It definitely put off a hugely tropical flavor and aroma...so much that I used it to marinade mango/pineapple/pork/chicken shish kabobs with some habanero/mango hot sauce for a beer dinner I put together for a few friends. YUM!

I can't speak for the riwaka, but the rest of your hops sound great together, maybe with the exception of simcoe as others have said. I'd either leave it out or possibly just use it as a dry hop.

 
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:16 PM   #9
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Only one I haven't used is Riwaka. I have an imperial saison with Citra & Nelson right now that is amazing. Very tropical. Bittered with an oz of Nelson, 2oz Citra & 1oz NS @15 and 2oz Citra @5.

You'll certainly be loaded up with flavor and aroma on this bad boy. I say go ahead and make it and if you think it's too muddled you can simplify on the next attempt.

 
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:23 PM   #10
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Love Citra!

I used citra the last few times for pale ales, I was originally wanting to get summit and my LHBS was out but said he picked up some leaf citra that I should try. I used half for bittering and the other for dryhopping with cascade. Liked it so much I bought more and used more citra for dryhopping!
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