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Old 06-13-2013, 12:05 AM   #161
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3724 shouldn't taste tart as far as I know. Brett wouldn't taste sour to any large degree. That mostly comes from lacto or pedio. If it was lightly tart, I might say its the yeast but very tart makes me think infection. Any other signs or off flavors?

 
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:11 PM   #162
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This has been kegged for a month now and I've been drinking it. I like it, but it is very tart. I didn't add Brett but it tastes what I'd think that tastes like (have had the Tank 7 Brett once... it was on tap and awesome). Should this recipe with WY3724 come out with a natural tartness to it? I honestly don't know if it's tasting like it should or if it's an infection. It looks great as you can see...
What temps did you ferment at?
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:24 PM   #163
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What temps did you ferment at?
Started at 68 and ramped all the way to 90-95 over a weeks time. Kept it at or above 90 for several weeks. It took about 6 weeks to finish off at 1.012.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:52 PM   #164
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I've gotten a sense of tartness from Amarillo's before, so it's probably a combo of the yeast & hops providing the tartness. BTW - the yeast description says "very tart", so there you go...

http://www.wyeastlab.com/rw_yeaststr...tail.cfm?ID=60

 
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:46 PM   #165
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Interesting my experience with it was not tart at all. Well there's you answer.

 
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:41 PM   #166
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I've gotten a sense of tartness from Amarillo's before, so it's probably a combo of the yeast & hops providing the tartness. BTW - the yeast description says "very tart", so there you go...

http://www.wyeastlab.com/rw_yeaststr...tail.cfm?ID=60
Wow how I'd I miss that?! Thanks. I like it okay, I just don't want to be drinking and infection thinking that it is supposed to be that way
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:10 AM   #167
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Nice Schumed! Thanks for sharing the info. I just brewed my first attempt at this one. This is what I came up with based on everyone's suggestions and I went the original suggestion of more wheat for the first try.

5.5gal batch

11lb Pale belg 2 row
3lb Flaked Corn
1.4 Wheat
(1.5 oz of carafa II for color) as a previous poster suggested

.20 oz magnum @60 I was tempted to bump this up but stuck to 6.9 ibu
.25 oz simcoe @45
3.5 oz amarillo @5min

Mashed @ 152º for 60 mins

I used the 3724 belgian saison yeast since the LBS did not have 3726.

My preboil gravity was 1.054 and I missed my OG by quite a bit for some reason, 1.065. The mill at the LBS was jamming up and I had forgotten to dump my wheat malt in. After it was unjammed and an employee adjusted it, I ran it through and it did not mill it well at all so I ran it back through but who knows if that affected it. They were closing and I wanted to get out of there so I went with it. I am looking forward to buying my own mill soon...

I was planning on a small dry hop of amarillo as well. I will post how this came out.
Is this the preferred recipe for a Tank 7 clone now, with either 3724 or 3726?

 
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:31 PM   #168
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Question about hopping this: the Boulevard website says the current hops are Magnum, Bravo, and Amarillo. I have Magnum as the 60 min addition, and Amarillo the dry-hop, but where would the Bravo go? 45 min for bitterness, or more like 20-15 for flavor?

I've perused the thread and it seems like either 20 or 45 are when most people add the middle addition. What's gotten you closest?

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Question about hopping this: the Boulevard website says the current hops are Magnum, Bravo, and Amarillo. I have Magnum as the 60 min addition, and Amarillo the dry-hop, but where would the Bravo go? 45 min for bitterness, or more like 20-15 for flavor?

I've perused the thread and it seems like either 20 or 45 are when most people add the middle addition. What's gotten you closest?

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Look at my recipe that is straight from Boulevard....sub For the sim or addition...I believe they have changed to Bravo because its probably cheaper and easily available
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Okay, so based on the proportions given for grains in post #15 (70/20/10), here's what I've come up with:

6 gallons, 75% efficiency

11 lb US Pale Malt (70%)
3 lb flaked corn (19%)
1.75 lb Wheat malt (11%)

.5 oz Magnum, 13.5% AA, 60 min (17 IBU)
.625 oz Bravo, 15.5% AA, 45 min (22 IBU)
1.5 oz Amarillo, 9.5% AA, dry hop (0 IBU)

Wyeast 3711 French Saison

OG: 1.072
FG: 1.010
IBU: 39
SRM: 4.3
ABV: 8.3%

Post #15 is from two years ago, so I'm sure things have changed a bit. Schumed, you have a 5 minute Amarillo addition. Is that what Boulevard does currently, or was that your interpretation? That just seems like an awful lot of green matter.
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