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Old 06-05-2011, 01:39 AM   #1
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I just did my first AG and as would be expected, I had a low efficiency. Did some research and I saw that many people say the crush can play a big part in getting a good conversion. I just realized that since my LHBS does my milling that I have no idea if it's right or not. So, help a newbie out and post up some shots of what properly milled grains should look like. When I get home tomorrow, I'll post a pic of the extra pound of amber malt I have and you guys can give me your opinions.

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Simply put...are all the grains well broken and easily exposed to be mashed? Are there any grains that still appear whole? IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO CRUSH...SORRY CAP LOCK INADVERTANT... If any unbroken grains are present, repeat and crush again.....

 
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Simply put...are all the grains well broken and easily exposed to be mashed? Are there any grains that still appear whole? IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO CRUSH...SORRY CAP LOCK INADVERTANT... If yes repeat the procedure tomorrow...
This is a good description, and I agree with "wilserbrewer." There's nothing mysterious about the crush, it just comes down to cranking down whatever you're using until all the grains are broken up. Yes, by the time I did that I was getting a little flour in the grist. No, in dozens of mashes I've never experienced a stuck sparge.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:20 AM   #4
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This is conditioned grain for batch sparging.



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Old 06-05-2011, 01:02 PM   #6
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I see that you live in Groveland, so I assume you get your grain from Hearts Homebrew. If so, they go light on the crush for sure. The best efficiency I ever had when they milled my grain was 62%. Since I got my own mill for Xmas, I have been hitting 77-82%. It's a pretty big difference.

 
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Ding ding ding! I think we have a winner. My grains did come from Heart's and they look NOTHING like the pics above.

So how much does a decent mill cost?

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Ding ding ding! I think we have a winner. My grains did come from Heart's and they look NOTHING like the pics above.

So how much does a decent mill cost?

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I see quite a bit of completely un-crushed kernels in the second pic.

You can get a bare bones mill like this for $117 plus shipping:

http://www.monsterbrewinghardware.com/mm-2.html

If you are handy, you can build a hopper, base and motorize it. So, you are pretty much looking at something like $300+ all said and done motorized and ready to rock. Depending on your scrounging skills, fabrication skills and who you know, you could cut that down to about $175 or less if you are really smooth.

A mill is a very good investment if you are serious about this hobby.

 
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:21 AM   #9
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or get a barely crusher for 125... including a hopper and base.. and use your cordless drill or the included hand crank... or go super cheap like I did.. build a mill out of a pasta maker
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/usin...l-grain-75784/

here's a pic of my crush..

 
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Catt22, and mysticmeads crush look good. The crush you got from Hearts is embarrassing. I don't know if you need a mill or a LHBS that knows what it's doing.

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