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Old 01-05-2012, 04:56 AM   #11
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I havent heard of Optic malt, i use MO all the time though. Are they similar?
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:11 AM   #12
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Optic has a distinct English flavor and it is slightly nutty. Maris is great but Optic is amazing.
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:14 AM   #13
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Sounds good. I've been on a British styles kick lately so now i'm interested. Keep us posted when you get some in stock.
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:09 PM   #14
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I just brewed up my 2nd batch of this with MO, wish I knew about Optic!
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #15
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anybody have anymore thoughts on the hop variety and schedule for this clone??
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Old 02-18-2012, 02:48 PM   #16
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I messed up my hop purchase (did 2 brews that day and did 10 gallons of this one) and didn't have enough EKG. I tried something I read in a book and did a pre boil hop addition with half the 15 minute hops. So instead of being able to add in double the 15 min (2 oz) I just put in 1 oz pre boil. I believe the idea is you get the solid flavor of the hop with much less bitter.

The keg came out great. It just tasted awesome, even better then the first time I made this. This was my 22nd all grain brew and the first time I brewed it that was my 5th all grain brew, so that also may have something to do with it. In any event I'm planning on brewing this again later this spring, it was extremely popular.
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:59 AM   #17
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I think I settled on a recipe for this.

10 lb Optic Malt
10 oz Simpsons Dark Crystal
0.5 oz Carafa III unhusked debittered malt for color

.65 oz Target (60 min)
.5 oz Challenger (5min)
.5 oz Northdown (5min)
.2 oz EK Goldings (5min)
.5 oz EK Gildings (dry hop)

Wyeast 1968 London ESB

I'm going to use first runnings only and shoot for

OG 1.059
FG 1.014
SRM 11.5
IBU 35

Mash at 150 for 60 mins
Boil for 75 mins

Pitch at 63 degrees and let rise to 67-68 and hold

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Old 06-15-2013, 03:54 PM   #18
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I have some leftover hops, including EKG and Challenger, from previous brews. Any reason I couldn't mix up the hops a bit? Also, will there be a negative impact if it ferments closer to 70 degrees?
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:18 AM   #19
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I'm sure it will turn out great. I'm a big EKG fan. My ferm temp is greatly chosen by my basement and time of year. I've made this beer many times and found that Marris Otter is the base malt of choice for me (I like a bigger body and a little darker).
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:27 PM   #20
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I was reading some back issues of byo and they have a clone for it in the mar 2011 issue.

11 lbs 3 oz Muntons Pale ale malt
1 lb 2 oz crystal malt (75L)
.53 oz target hops - 60 min
.34 oz challenger hops - 60 min
.1 oz northdown hops - 15 min
.33 oz goldings hops - 15 min
.33 oz goldings hops for dry hopping
Wyeast 1968 (London esb) or white labs wlp002 (English ale)

Mash at 153F in 16.5 quarts of water for 60 minutes. Boil 60 minutes then ferment at 69F, add dry hops to secondary.
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