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Old 06-13-2011, 03:43 AM   #111
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Anyway how did the OP's beer turn out? I checked in on a debate about distillation.

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Old 06-13-2011, 04:11 AM   #112
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Ok...lets stop the debate on this. No one is going to freeze the beer since it will concentrate the alcohol and flavors which is the opposite of the goal of this thread. There is also no need to collect the alcohol, so it isn't distilling.

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Old 06-13-2011, 04:21 AM   #113
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FWIW, HBT's stance is to allow discussions concerning freeze concentration, based upon James Spencer's findings.

I agree. Enough debate on legality/morality. Wait, did I say that before?
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:06 AM   #114
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It's okay. I yield anyway. ODaniel is right, apparently there is a legal distinction between concentrate and distilled liquor:
Subpart R—Beer Concentrate
§ 25.261 General.
(a) Authorized processes. A brewer may, in accordance with this subpart—
(1) Produce concentrate from beer,
(2) Reconstitute beer from concentrate,
(3) Transfer concentrate from one brewery to another brewery of the same ownership, and
(4) Remove concentrate without payment of tax for exportation, or for transfer to and deposit in a foreign-trade zone for exportation or for storage pending exportation in accordance with Part 28 of this chapter.
(b) Brewery treatment of concentrate. Beer reconstituted from concentrate in accordance with this subpart shall (except with respect to the additional labeling of reconstituted beer under §25.263) be treated the same as beer which has not been concentrated and reconstituted.
(Sec. 201, Pub. L. 85–859, 72 Stat. 1388, as amended (26 U.S.C. 5401))
[T.D. ATF–224, 51 FR 7673, Mar. 5, 1986, as amended by T.D. TTB–8, 69 FR 3830, Jan. 27, 2004]
What does this have to do with the OP question? Not much, other than it allows (legally) for removing alcohol via the method audger provided:
Originally Posted by audger View Post
what if you froze maybe 2 gallons, and only retained the solids. i dont know if most of the flavor would remain in the liquid alcohol mix (seems plausable), but you could then do your 180* distillation on that concentrate (in a large shallow pan so it is able to evaporate), which should make distilling alcohol off even easier as its a more concentrated soloution, and then recombine the two.

i would think that would atleast get you a lower ABV then your orig method of just heating the beer. but putting a beer in the freezer is actually illegal in CT, as its "distilling", so do so at your own risk.
Seems to me this is the best way to remove a majority of alcohol while (hopefully) retaining most of the flavor. You could still add a hop-tea to this and get your hops aroma bumped up as well.

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