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Old 05-27-2011, 07:04 PM   #1
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Default Vissani 52 Wine Bottle Kegerator

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/vissani...ack-26102.html

This unit perfectly holds two ball lock kegs and a 5 lb CO2 bottle on the compressor shelf. It looks like it was perfectly made for this application for $199.

We are using picnic taps.

The compressor size looks correct for this size refrigerator (have one sitting next to the Vissani).

Further temperature testing on two water filled kegs tonight.

It will look great with some blue cold cathode/LED lights inside.

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Old 05-29-2011, 09:41 PM   #2
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The cooler froze water in a pitcher. The temperature control does not seem to work well.

The goal for us is to have it cycle at 44 deg. So readjusting and watching.

We added a small 4 inch fan from Walgeens blowing down from the top on to the cooling coil to move air around the kegs (like a real kegerator). Big improvement.

We will probably try another unit or different model. I calle MC and they said this uint should hold within 5 deg with a low temp of 40 deg.

What is a reasonable amount of cycling at 44 deg?

How long would a real kegerator take to cool two tap water temp kegs to 36 deg?

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Old 06-28-2011, 11:29 PM   #3
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I am new to the kegging world, haven't tried it yet with my HomeBrew, but I'm ready too. After seeing this thread I went to Home Depot today and bought one of these exact Vissani 52 bottle wine-coolers. I'm interested to see where this thread goes so I can learn more about this unit.

So are you keeping the 5lb CO2 tank right inside the fridge?

Any thoughts on keeping it a constant temp with one of the Johnson Controls temperature regulator units?
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:37 PM   #4
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In your photos I don't see the fan mounted on the ceiling inside the fridge.... how did you mount that? How are you powering the fan?
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Old 06-29-2011, 01:32 PM   #5
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For the fan I ran a very small lamp wire thru the drain hole in the back and made sure it had a drip loop. You can get the ends for the wire. I just cut an old extension chord and used both ends for the test. For the initial test (in-case of return) I wire tide it to the top back thermostat housing and pointed it down along the back.

Eventually, I returned this unit because I wanted to used Perlik faucets and not picnic taps. I finally purchased a kegerator from kegconnection.com.

The Vissani seemed to work.

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Old 06-29-2011, 01:37 PM   #6
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I looked at one of these a few weeks back because it seemed ideal. Some research showed that they are very unreliable. Apparently they are another "Magic Chef" brand which is widely seen as a poor brand for reliability. YMMV, but I would avoid this product.

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Old 06-29-2011, 06:17 PM   #7
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For the fan I ran a very small lamp wire thru the drain hole in the back and made sure it had a drip loop. You can get the ends for the wire. I just cut an old extension chord and used both ends for the test. For the initial test (in-case of return) I wire tide it to the top back thermostat housing and pointed it down along the back.

Eventually, I returned this unit because I wanted to used Perlik faucets and not picnic taps. I finally purchased a kegerator from kegconnection.com.

The Vissani seemed to work.

Victor

So you think the Vissani will work ok? What about when hooked up to a Johnson Controls temperature controller to regulate the temperature for fermenting ale at around 67degrees or so in the Vissani?

Even though you abandoned your Vissani, do you still think I might be able to use it ok for keeping 2 ball-lock kegs in there with picnic taps?

Just curious... what benefit do the Perlik faucets provide over the picnic taps?

You kind of lost me on your lamp wire explanation... what's a drip loop?
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I looked at one of these a few weeks back because it seemed ideal. Some research showed that they are very unreliable. Apparently they are another "Magic Chef" brand which is widely seen as a poor brand for reliability. YMMV, but I would avoid this product.

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Hmm, they've gotten pretty good reviews on the Home Depot website. I haven't seen (after much looking) any unfavorable comments really about the Vissani 52 bottle cooler at Home Depot... so I'm not really sure what to do now I guess.
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For the fan I ran a very small lamp wire thru the drain hole in the back and made sure it had a drip loop. You can get the ends for the wire. I just cut an old extension chord and used both ends for the test. For the initial test (in-case of return) I wire tide it to the top back thermostat housing and pointed it down along the back.

Eventually, I returned this unit because I wanted to used Perlik faucets and not picnic taps. I finally purchased a kegerator from kegconnection.com.

The Vissani seemed to work.

Victor


Also I'm wondering, which kegerator did you get on kegconnection.com?
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Old 06-30-2011, 01:30 PM   #10
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Do you have the keg equipment and picnic taps yet? If you do, I would try the Vassani for two weeks and see how it works. Honestly, all the Chinese fridges look the same including the EdgeStar kegerator I just purchased. We bottled our last 30 batches over the years but decided to start kegging to keep up with our neighbors! So this month we made 15 gals and kegged instead. Much easier. We have a Belgium and IPA on tap with an English Brown under pressure waiting for Drinking. We need a forth keg to keep the beer flowing.

I purchased the EdgeStar kegerator with the kegs, dual Perlik faucet SS tower (they pour better and stay cleaner), SS door (see living direct for picture), Taprite Dual body regulator (can set two separate pressures), added a third gas line for external keg maintenance/pressurization, 12X5 SS drip tray (the small plastic one does not fit under dual taps), additional clamps and clamping tool. The SS tower from Kegconnection.com is an upgrade for the same price as the Chrome plated one from Living Direct (who does not support home brew). I also have one picnic tap for maintenance.

I drilled an extra hole in the back above the original for the second gas line and used a spare part from the first shipping damaged kegerator.

In addition I purchased a 12v squirrel cage blower and 12v power supply and built a 12v voltage regulator from an LM317 adjustable regulator to slow down the fan that worked too well (faucets dripping with condensation) and was a bit noisy (http://www.rigacci.org/docs/biblio/o...rial-full.html).I carefully soldered (not too much heat) the LM317 to the back of the potentiometer to act as a built in heatsink.

I used 1/8” foil backed adhesive insulation (Frost King from Lowes) to line the inside of the tower with two layers to keep it from sweating. Only a very small area around the back of the faucets is exposed. I should measure the voltage and recommend just purchasing the low voltage power supply to save the $10 regulator expense and wasted electricity (heat from the linear voltage regulator).

Works perfectly and it’s quite. Maybe a ” of head or less on the first and every pour. The IP and Belgium are set to slightly different pressures. Temperature is too cold at 50% setting.

For a significant cost difference I would try the Vassani if you don’t mind the picnic taps. That was my original cheap goal. I just have a hard time not going over board.

Ben at kegconnection.com was very helpful. If you go that route tell him hello from me.

Victor


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