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Old 05-20-2011, 01:12 AM   #21
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I've been making wine for years, so I'm pretty proficient with racking. But I still rack to a bottling bucket.

It's hard enough to rack without sucking up any sediment, even where there is little in the way of lees or trub. But to try to do that while bottling seems silly to me.

Maintaining a siphon, racking off of the trub, filling bottles appropriately, etc, are all jobs that can require two hands. Unless you've grown additional arms and are an expert at siphoning, a bottling bucket is a huge help.
I agree completely, except when bottling a one gallon batch of crystal clear wine/mead/cider from a 1-gallon jug.

In that case, I use the mini-autosiphon and the bottle wand on the end of the hose. The first one sucks, but the other nine work fine.

 
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:30 AM   #22
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Well, you're still racking, right? To a spare carboy, and bottling from there? I'm talking about bottling from the fermenter with a bottling wand while siphoning and trying to maintain that. In the new vessel, the end of the racking cane can sit on the bottom, making the siphon easy to maintain. But doing it from the primary wouldn't be so easy! You'd have to keep it above the trub, as well as maintain a siphon, and avoid any sediment. It's easier to to the extra step and rack to a clean/sanitized vessel. My vessel of choice is a bottling bucket but a carboy would work too.

I like to line up my bottles on the dishwasher door, and have the bottling bucket on the counter above, and using a bottling wand on some tubing from the bottling bucket, I just fill them all. Any spills just stay on the grooves on the dishwasher door and don't make a mess at all.

It's a really simple procedure and it doesn't take long at all. Going to extraneous measures (measuring priming sugar individually, trying to siphon and bottle at the same time avoiding trub, etc) just seems silly to me.
Concur. I was just talking about the lack of a need for a spigot and dedicated vessel.

I keep my bottles in 24 ct. cardboard boxes both to avoid the mess of spillage and to protect against the dreaded bottle domino effect. As a bonus, I get an assembly-line-like boost to my filling efficiency. I also bottle in my garage so I don't worry about any messes.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:12 AM   #23
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Good Information Guys. I've still got a couple of weeks till I'll be bottling. I like the idea of bottling from a second carboy. I might give that some thought.

 
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:22 AM   #24
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Out of the all the mundane, pain in the ass tasks for bottling day, racking to a bottling bucket, is the least of my concerns. You still would have to sanitize every bottle and cap, boil sugar, etc etc etc. And, I am not sure if a siphon would continue to flow with the start and stop of bottling. IMHO
+1 on that. Well, the first part. The first time I bottled, I did rack to a (spigot-less) bucket, but I did the actual bottling via siphon with no spigot, no auto-siphon, no bottling wand, and no way to stop the flow other than crimping the hose. It was a miserable pain in the ass, and I never would have pulled it off without a friend helping me - but it did work, and the only time I lost the siphon was when I accidentally let the intake side go above the beer.

But yeah, racking has got to be the EASIEST part of bottling day!

 
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:24 AM   #25
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If your trub is below a spigot in a plastic carboy, this would be fairly manageable. But from my experience, even if you didn't have a fermenter with a spigot, it could still work easily with an extra set of hands. Why not try it? Dont let them talk you out of your idea. just because it's not conventional doesn't mean it won't work for you. let me know how it turns out.

 
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+1 on that. Well, the first part. The first time I bottled, I did rack to a (spigot-less) bucket, but I did the actual bottling via siphon with no spigot, no auto-siphon, no bottling wand, and no way to stop the flow other than crimping the hose. It was a miserable pain in the ass, and I never would have pulled it off without a friend helping me - but it did work, and the only time I lost the siphon was when I accidentally let the intake side go above the beer.

But yeah, racking has got to be the EASIEST part of bottling day!
I used to bottle like that. Except I also used a bottling wand attached to the tubing (which was attached to the auto-siphon).

Honestly though, it's just so much easier using a bottling bucket. I actually made a thread where I adapted Revvy's bottling procedure to just use a boil kettle with a spigot, instead of a dedicated bottling bucket. Stainless bottling "bucket" FTW!

 
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