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Old 09-23-2005, 05:16 AM   #11
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I agree with Scott. I use a piece of hose to go from my primary to my secondary. Then it doesn't matter about finding a table or cabinet the right height.


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Old 09-23-2005, 05:45 AM   #12
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Ah, siphon...good idea...

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Old 09-23-2005, 01:06 PM   #13
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I first got the itch to make beer from watching "Good Eats" episode about making beer. He used two buckets - both with the spiggot. On the other hand it didn't seem that he knew very much about beer making.

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Old 09-23-2005, 02:50 PM   #14
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I like the buckets. Here's why:

1. Light weight.
2. Opaque (no chance of light damage)
3. Easy to clean
4. No blow-off.

I know that glassies will claim that there's are easier to clean, but here's my method:

Hose out the bucket to get crud or dust out.
Fill bucket to the tip-top.
Add 4 tbsp household bleach
Stir with racking cane.
Throw all your tools in there. (can't do that with a glass carb)
Let it all sit while you boil. Use your bottle brush to get anything stuck-on off.

Dump, fill again with water and no-rinse sanitizer right around the time you add your finishing hops, then dump again.

The bleach kills any odors and nasties. You end up with a complete set of sanitized equipment.

Likewise, I'm considering using my bottling bucket as a secondary while my Kolsch occupies my true secondary.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:24 AM   #15
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You don't want to oxygenate after primary firmentation.

You've got to siphon and make sure no air gets mixed in in the process. You don't eveny want to splash it.

I agree.. pouring is a very very bad idea. Siphoning is the way to go.. especially with an autosiphon.

For what it's worth I have a 6.5 gal bucket for a primary and a 6.5 gal carboy.. I haven't used the carboy as a primary yet because the bucket works just fine but I am aware of the oxygen permeability issue as well as the sanitizing/scraching issue and might just try the glass primary for my next go round.

For those of you who use a bottling bucket type setup for a primary, does the trub ever get sucked into the spigot? I usually end up with a bit of cold break material and hop debris in the primary and that makes for quite a thick layer of trub sometimes.
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Old 09-24-2005, 04:53 AM   #16
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For what it's worth I have a 6.5 gal bucket for a primary and a 6.5 gal carboy.. I haven't used the carboy as a primary yet because the bucket works just fine but I am aware of the oxygen permeability issue as well as the sanitizing/scraching issue and might just try the glass primary for my next go round.

I just decided after about 20 batches it was time to start doing primary in glass. I never had any problems with the plastic buckets but I'm trying to upgrade the brewery.
Heck, I even do my secondaries in corny kegs now. You have to be vigilant about venting them (at least once a day), but it works nice, and highly convenient for racking time.
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:01 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Cheesefood
I like the buckets. Here's why:

1. Light weight.
2. Opaque (no chance of light damage)
3. Easy to clean
4. No blow-off.

I know that glassies will claim that there's are easier to clean, but here's my method:

Hose out the bucket to get crud or dust out.
Fill bucket to the tip-top.
Add 4 tbsp household bleach
Stir with racking cane.
Throw all your tools in there. (can't do that with a glass carb)
Let it all sit while you boil. Use your bottle brush to get anything stuck-on off.

Dump, fill again with water and no-rinse sanitizer right around the time you add your finishing hops, then dump again.

The bleach kills any odors and nasties. You end up with a complete set of sanitized equipment.

Likewise, I'm considering using my bottling bucket as a secondary while my Kolsch occupies my true secondary.
All pretty good points, except "no blow off". Apparenatly you haven't had the right combination going in yours yet, but when you do, that lid blowing off there makes a nice little boom. Makes quite a mess, too!

It's a good idea to use a blowoff with a plastic bucket, too.
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It's a good idea to use a blowoff with a plastic bucket, too.
How do I set up a tube for blow off from my Ale Pail? Right now I have an airlock installed and it bubles constantly.
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First, why is air mixing a problem? ...darn.

Second, why can't you just run some hose from the spigot (with the primary in an elevated position), to the secondary...same effect as a siphon, no?
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First, why is air mixing a problem? ...darn.

Second, why can't you just run some hose from the spigot (with the primary in an elevated position), to the secondary...same effect as a siphon, no?
air is bad because it contains oxygen. oxygenation causes beer to go stale faster.

you should just run the hose from the spigot. no need to siphon if you've already got the spigot.


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