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Old 04-27-2011, 04:09 AM   #31
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Fermentation is still going strong after 3 days, however it's slowing! Maybe I'll have good luck with the 565 and it will finish out on it own? I have the temp at 80, going to check the gravity tomorrow.

 
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:39 AM   #32
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How does mine look?
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 6.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 38.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb American 2-Row (1.0 SRM) Grain 54.00 %
4.00 lb Pilsner Malt (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 43.00 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 3.00 %
0.75 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 24.3 IBU
0.25 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
0.25 Sorachi Ace [13.7 %] (20 min) Hops
0.25 Sorachi Ace [13.7 %] (5 min) Hops
0.50 Sorachi Ace [13.7 %] (1 min) Hops
1.00 lb Orange Blossom Honey (1.0 SRM) (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
1.00 lb White Grape Juice, (1.0 SRM) (3 days into Fermentation) Misc
1 Pkgs Saison (Wyeast 3711) Yeast-Ale

Total Grain Weight: 9.50 lb
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I'm hoping the lemony hops will match up with the white grape juice really well.

http://rem4606mancave.blogspot.com/2...ture-brew.html
Why are you using grape juice?

Aside from that I would shift the ratio of Pilsner to 2-Row. Use less 2-Row and more Pils. Other than that maybe use a touch of wheat for mouthfeel, and a small dash (quarter pound) of dark crystal malt for color (if you want it that nice golden color).

But I think your hop profile looks great. I love a saison with a great hop character.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:56 PM   #33
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Why are you using grape juice?

Aside from that I would shift the ratio of Pilsner to 2-Row. Use less 2-Row and more Pils. Other than that maybe use a touch of wheat for mouthfeel, and a small dash (quarter pound) of dark crystal malt for color (if you want it that nice golden color).

But I think your hop profile looks great. I love a saison with a great hop character.
I got inspired by the He'brew Rejewvenator and really liked the idea of using grape juice in a beer. I thought that the crisp and peppery saison yeast was the perfect candidate. I'll definitely up the Pils and add a little bit of crystal 60 to it. I'll let you know how it goes.

 
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Old 04-27-2011, 03:56 PM   #34
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How does mine look?
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 6.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 38.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb American 2-Row (1.0 SRM) Grain 54.00 %
4.00 lb Pilsner Malt (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 43.00 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 3.00 %
0.75 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 24.3 IBU
0.25 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
0.25 Sorachi Ace [13.7 %] (20 min) Hops
0.25 Sorachi Ace [13.7 %] (5 min) Hops
0.50 Sorachi Ace [13.7 %] (1 min) Hops
1.00 lb Orange Blossom Honey (1.0 SRM) (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
1.00 lb White Grape Juice, (1.0 SRM) (3 days into Fermentation) Misc
1 Pkgs Saison (Wyeast 3711) Yeast-Ale

Total Grain Weight: 9.50 lb
----------------------------

I'm hoping the lemony hops will match up with the white grape juice really well.

http://rem4606mancave.blogspot.com/2...ture-brew.html
Well that will certainly be an interesting beer. It won't be a saison but it should be interesting. Why not try a more neutral yeast so that your ingredients show to advantage?



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Old 05-03-2011, 12:31 AM   #35
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So after 9 days the gravity on my saison is down to 1.013 (started at 1.063), Id say I did pretty well with the 565 yeast not crapping out on me!

However, the beer tastes good, but its a little plain. Not as much character or spice as I was hoping. So im thinking of dry hopping it with a bit of Saaz and maybe some fresh orange zest.

What do you think?

 
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:00 PM   #36
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So the saison is kegged and carbed, and tastes pretty good. however it has absolutely no head whatsoever! The beer is carbed fine but just will not pour a head no matter what! I have never had a beer act this way!

I have my pale ale on tap also, running off the same CO2 bottle (at lower pressure, dual regulator) and it pours a perfect head, so I dont think the problem is the CO2.

There is nothing "weird" ingredient wise in this beer. Is there some reason the Saison would act this way?

 
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:23 PM   #37
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So the saison is kegged and carbed, and tastes pretty good. however it has absolutely no head whatsoever! The beer is carbed fine but just will not pour a head no matter what! I have never had a beer act this way!

I have my pale ale on tap also, running off the same CO2 bottle (at lower pressure, dual regulator) and it pours a perfect head, so I dont think the problem is the CO2.

There is nothing "weird" ingredient wise in this beer. Is there some reason the Saison would act this way?
Hrm.... Not too sure. What did your OG and FG end up being?

I usually use a higher percentage of wheat in mine to help the body and head retention.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:46 PM   #38
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OG 1.063
FG 1.012
It didnt finish as dry as I had hoped. But I dont think this is affecting the head.

 
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