Frozen Orange Juice???? - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Frozen Orange Juice????

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-29-2011, 03:12 PM   #1
wg_one
Recipes 
 
Mar 2011
Lake City, MN
Posts: 19


Hi everyone! So I'm pretty new to this, my first brew is conditioning in bottle right now, should be ready to try in about a week. I sampled it pre bottle and it was decent.

For my next batch I wanted to try to get creative. I have liked citrus flavored beers like Summer Shandy and Blue Moon, and I wanted to try one of my own. I have 6+ pounds of wheat extract, and about 6oz. of wheat malt for steeping grains. I was going to try adding some frozen orange juice to the mix somewhere in the process and I was thinking I'd add it to the boil...my cousin tried this with a pumpkin beer and he just added two cans of pumpkin puree from the grocery store to the boil and it turned out great!

Do you think this will work or do you suggest adding the OJ at another stage, like maybe directly to the primary? Oooorrrr...Do you suggest something totally different?

Thanks! Bill, Minnesota

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 03:21 PM   #2
EoinMag
Recipes 
 
Dec 2008
Dublin, Ireland.
Posts: 1,169
Liked 61 Times on 40 Posts


I'd wait until you learn the basics before getting all crazy and making some weird stuff.

Have you ever smelled fermenting orange juice? It smells like puke, it might work out.....but make a few beers first, normal stuff, then get all outlandish and ****.
__________________
http://beernvictuals.blogspot.com/20...rters-and.html
http://beernvictuals.blogspot.com

You didn't say you didn't love me, when you were stretched out across my bed
You're drinkin' moonshine whisky and talking all outta your head.
Rory Gallagher - Pistol Slapper Blues (Trad)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 03:23 PM   #3
Arneba28
 
Arneba28's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2008
Amherst, Western New York
Posts: 2,193
Liked 17 Times on 12 Posts


No this will get bitter or add no flavor at all. add orange zest to the beer after you add your yeast.
__________________
My Kegerator Project

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 03:23 PM   #4
FensterBos
Recipes 
 
Nov 2010
Waltham, MA
Posts: 495
Liked 11 Times on 11 Posts


Personally...I would recommend just making a Wit a normal way and then squeezing in fresh orange wedge at the time of drinking.
__________________
Fermenting:
15 Gallons of New England Hard Cider - Four yeasts: Ale yeast, two cider yeasts, and a champagne yeast.

Kegged:
Helliday Ale and Chocolate Nitro Stout

Reason: Read EoinMags post and got rid of 2/3rds of my original post.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 03:38 PM   #5
djsethall
Registered User
Recipes 
 
Nov 2010
Olympia, WA
Posts: 3,416
Liked 15 Times on 13 Posts


You could use some citrusy (spelling?) hops like cascade or something to give it a hint of citrus. Definately some orange zest which can be thrown in pretty much anytime from 5 minutes to flameout to right into the secondary for a few days before bottling. You could try doing a very small 1 gallon batch for testing. The dogfish head guy does small batches to test new ingredients, only difference is a small batch to him is not a small batch to us. LOL

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 04:46 PM   #6
Malintent
Recipes 
 
May 2010
Ceilin
Posts: 377
Liked 9 Times on 8 Posts


NEVER boil fruit (except briefly, to pasteurize). The pectins in the fruit will break down in the boil and just be bitter and awful....

A secondary fermentor is the place to introduce fruit (and a wedge at serving time, for some varieties - like a wheat beer, as garnish)

also, as before mentioned, you don't want the yeast to get at the fruit during primary fermentation, as they will eat all the sweetness out of the fruit and just leave you with what is left over... which is not usually very pleasant.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 05:45 PM   #7
ThePearsonFam
Recipes 
 
Feb 2009
Scarborough, Maine
Posts: 884
Liked 14 Times on 11 Posts


I like the "make a small batch to see what you get" approach myself... My experience is that, OJ in the boil probably won't do much, or nothing at all. Maybe adding it to the fermenter will produce some interesting flavors... If you pitch to the fermenter, do it after the aggressive, initial fermentation slows and consider a blow-off tube. OR... if you're gonna force-carbonate, maybe let the fermentation finih COMPLETELY and pitch in some potassium sorbate to kill the yeast and pour in the OJ to slightly sweeten and flavor the beer (I know I wouldn't like this answer... tried it by putting a bit of oj into a finished beer... yuck... totally different - don't ask me why - than squeezing a wedge into Blue Moon)

The more traditional answer is, zest away baby... thow some in for the last 5 mins of your boil. Throw more into the fermenter...

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 07:09 PM   #8
SilentAutumn
Recipes 
 
Jan 2011
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 119
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts


I've heard of toasting orange peels (bake in 300 degree oven till white part turns golden brown, about 45 minutes) and using them. An ounce runs $2-$3 at the LHBS. But if you're eating oranges at home anyway, why waste the peel?

Valencia, Navel and Blood oranges are all sweet oranges. Seville are a bitter orange. I've seen recipes that call for one or the other or both at the same time.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 07:13 PM   #9
ThePearsonFam
Recipes 
 
Feb 2009
Scarborough, Maine
Posts: 884
Liked 14 Times on 11 Posts


hmmm... zesting gets just the colorful portion. The white portion is pith and it imparts a VERY bitter taste to beer.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 08:06 PM   #10
Hockeyhunter99
 
Hockeyhunter99's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2010
Fargo, ND
Posts: 597
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


holy crap. inventing new beers can take many diffferent batches and could be years to work out proper amounts. i would highly recommend getting your process down before doing some crazy brewing techniques. do some kits that have ingredients that are what you are looking for to get recipes and timing down first. IMHO, you are jumping into murky waters head first before checking the depth of the pool.
__________________
Beer Renaissance definition - transformation from a heavy beer drinker to drinking heavy beer

Keg - American Pale Ale

Primary - Chocolate Cascadian Dark Ale
Primary - ButterBeer

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
frozen yeast? slakwhere Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 9 02-12-2011 08:12 PM
hmm... Brewing with .. Orange Juice? Oaky Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 16 03-13-2009 10:56 AM
frozen yeast fightingswede Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 5 01-17-2009 02:10 AM
Frozen Yeast DuffmanAK Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 6 11-27-2008 03:40 PM
BAH!!! Frozen bottles. Mishkin Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 2 09-27-2006 06:18 PM


Forum Jump