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Old 02-27-2007, 01:44 AM   #1
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I m an extract brewer and using a 5 gal boil pot which means I boil 3.5 gallons and add the rest to bring water up to 5 gal. Does doing a full 5 gallon boil help the flavor a lot? Whats the bets type of pot to use? A lot of people use an old keg (keggle), can get on ebay for $75, or I can get a 9gal pot with a spigot and thermometer for $130 shipped.



 
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:00 AM   #2
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I m an extract brewer and using a 5 gal boil pot which means I boil 3.5 gallons and add the rest to bring water up to 5 gal. Does doing a full 5 gallon boil help the flavor a lot? Whats the bets type of pot to use? A lot of people use an old keg (keggle), can get on ebay for $75, or I can get a 9gal pot with a spigot and thermometer for $130 shipped.
No, full boils wont' help your flavor a lot. You can do a full boil, and you'll get better hops utilization. But, I've done partial boils and full boils and no one could tell the difference. To improve your brews, do a partial mash or go AG. Now, extract brewing gives a fine beer- don't get me wrong! But for more consistent flavor or "help the flavor a lot", that's the direction to head.

If you want to buy a new expensive pot, go ahead. I don't want to dissuade you. It will not hurt and might help! But for more flavor, I'd go with steeping grains, partial mash, or all-grain (in that order). Even in AG, I don't have a big enough pot/burner, so I split my boil into two pots. Not ideal- but it works for me. I just don't want you to feel that you have to buy a new pot to get better beer unless you actually want to buy a new pot!

(I've been drinking tonight, so if that doesn't make much sense, I'll try to fix it in the morning)

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Old 02-27-2007, 03:47 AM   #3
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Thanks Yooper. I appreciate the full answer reply, always nice to hear from the female brewers too. Thanks, lol, the name has a great story behind it (im a physicist).
I already steep so it sounds like I need to head the allgrain or partial mash direction. Ive read that partial mash is a good comprimise on time and equipment, any opinions on this?


 
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:05 AM   #4
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I already steep so it sounds like I need to head the allgrain or partial mash direction. Ive read that partial mash is a good comprimise on time and equipment, any opinions on this?
Definitely try PM if you already steep. You probably have all the equipment you need already. I really enjoyed PM brewing, and it taught me the techniques for all-grain brewing. I have done small 3 gallon AG batches using my PM equipment, and now I am pumped to try bigger (5 - 10 gallon) AG batches. PM brewing is a good 'intermediate' step, and it will help you to decide if you want to do full AG brewing.

If you haven't seen it already, here is a great article to get you going (and there is also lots of good advice on this site if you surf around).
http://www.byo.com/feature/1536.html

 
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:51 AM   #5
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Thanks Yooper. I appreciate the full answer reply, always nice to hear from the female brewers too. Thanks, lol, the name has a great story behind it (im a physicist).
I already steep so it sounds like I need to head the allgrain or partial mash direction. Ive read that partial mash is a good comprimise on time and equipment, any opinions on this?
I do "mini mash's" with full extract boils. It only makes sense to me that doing a full boil will lend a better brew...no real rhyme or reason..it just makes sense to me.
I wanted to get a bigger pot because I plan on going all grain. If I wasn't, I wouldn't invest the money. Beer, beer and more beer gave me the best deal on a 10 gal pot. Not the cheapest, but the best deal. I suggest checking them out, or if you can; get your hands on a used keg and convert it. That's the cheapest way to go.


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Old 02-27-2007, 06:16 AM   #6
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i use a cheap 20qt ceramic coated pot with no problems. Just turn off the gas while you slowly add in the extract, and then back to flame on. Be gentle with the pot and it'll last you a good number of brews. I'm probably gonna wait till I see a good deal on a stainless steel pot for down the road, but until them the ceramic coated steelie works good enough.
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:26 PM   #7
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I found an incredible pot at Walmart. It's 22qt. stainless steel. The bottom is 3 ply w/ an aluminum core to allow use on induction stove tops. The darn thing has to weigh close to 10 lbs. Price was $49.95. It's awesome...
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:45 PM   #8
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Maybe it's just me, but I absolutely think that full boils make a very noticeable difference in a beer. Perhaps it’s not so much the flavor as the mouth-feel.

I did a couple of partial boils before moving to full wort boils and they had a watery quality to them that just wasn't present in my full boils. I've been able to pick out the same quality in partial boils done by others as well – even before knowing they were partials.

If you can do it, I think that full wort boils are a great way to improve your beer. Besides, it’s a nice first step towards going all grain! You will, however, need a way to chill your wort besides an ice bath. Typically, people use an immersion chiller.
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:21 PM   #9
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Cool. I already use an immersion wort chiller, first extra piece I bought. IS there a good partialmash tutorial or somehting out there?

 
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:56 PM   #10
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I found an article about this in BYO http://www.byo.com/feature/1536.html. I have yet to try this technique but it seems like a good technique.


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