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Old 03-14-2011, 05:16 PM   #1
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Default Berlinerweisse - sick in the bottle

I recently did my first no-boil Berliner. Everything went well, and samples tasted fantastic. I bottled as usual, waited 2 weeks, and finally had one.
It tastes just as good as i remember, however, it's sick. All goopey, and weird looking. I have no problem drinking it this way, but how long should i expect to wait before it dissolves? It's kind of freaking my wife out.


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Old 03-14-2011, 06:31 PM   #2
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As long as it takes...


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Old 03-14-2011, 07:35 PM   #3
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i'm sure it's dependent on a host of factors. i'm curious if there is a difference in it's dissipation in the bottle versus fermenter/barrel. i'm keeping it at room temp (about 65ish) until it's done being sick. i've heard 3-4 months could be expected. but i'd hate to wait that long as i'd miss prime berliner drinking season.
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:00 AM   #4
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I recently did my first no-boil Berliner. Everything went well, and samples tasted fantastic. I bottled as usual, waited 2 weeks, and finally had one.
It tastes just as good as i remember, however, it's sick. All goopey, and weird looking. I have no problem drinking it this way, but how long should i expect to wait before it dissolves? It's kind of freaking my wife out.

goopey as ropey? I don't know of anything else that actually impacts the texture of beer except pedio. If that's the case it could be 6 months plus.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:16 AM   #5
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Yeah, it sounds like you have some pedio in there. Hopefully there is some brett in there as well to clean up the diacetyl the pedio will throw.
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:25 PM   #6
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We only had it happen once, and it was very odd.
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Yeah there was pedio in the yeast blend I used, as well as a couple Brett strains.
Why does this happen exactly? I take it pedio doesn't always do this. Waiting 6mo sucks. This was supposed to be my summer beer! Oh well.
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Ours went away is ~3 months, so it may be faster. I believe it is strain and condition dependent, where were your microbes from?

Here is the info from the slides Vinnie did for the 2007 NHC.

Help, my beer is sick?
-Pediococcus produces a slimy elastic thread like consistency if the conditions are just right. Belgian brewers call this being “sick”, the technical term is “ropy”.
-This slimy substance is harmless. It is composed of carbohydrates, acids, and proteins, and plays an important role in Lambic and Russian River funkified beers.
-A beer will become “well”after 3 or 4 months.
-A beer that has been “sick”exhibits a deeper acidity and mouthfeel.
-A Beer can be sick twice.
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Actually it's very common for pedio to do that.
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Actually it's very common for pedio to do that.
30+ batches and I've had it happen only once (Lost Abbey Red Poppy dregs). Where are you getting your Pedio from?


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