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Old 06-28-2011, 12:58 AM   #481
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Chris, did you run the pump with elbow in place after cooling and did it whirlpool the hops and trub in the center of the pot?

 
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:14 AM   #482
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Yambor44 - the 20l has one pump.

hfk2 - I ran it with the immersion chiller to get to temp then removed the chiller and whirlpooled for another 10 minutes or so, shutoff the pump and let it all settle out. The cone wasn't perfect but it was an improvement from before.

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Old 06-28-2011, 01:18 AM   #483
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Yambor44 - the 20l has one pump.

hfk2 - I ran it with the immersion chiller to get to temp then removed the chiller and whirlpooled for another 10 minutes or so, shutoff the pump and let it all settle out. The cone wasn't perfect but it was an improvement from before.

-Chris
I just use a stainless strainer hanging inside my fermentation bucket. Catches all that gunk!

 
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:31 AM   #484
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Yambor44 - the 20l has one pump.

hfk2 - I ran it with the immersion chiller to get to temp then removed the chiller and whirlpooled for another 10 minutes or so, shutoff the pump and let it all settle out. The cone wasn't perfect but it was an improvement from before.

-Chris
Did you previously whirlpool with a spoon, like I do? Just trying to understand what the improvement is based on.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:33 AM   #485
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Good question - thoughts?

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I'm thinking an indirect path to the grain bed can't hurt, but I'm no expert. It would seem to make it a lot more 'even of a flow of liquid - but there is probably only one way to find out.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:36 AM   #486
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Threw caution to the wind and tried it on my last brew day, a Belgian Dubbel with 13.5 lbs of grain. Put it in before I added water - heated, added the malt pipe and crossed my fingers. Ran the entire process with it in place without a hitch. Next time I may not be so lucky but it seems to be pretty solid.

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One other question. How was your efficiency compared to previous batches? Not sure if you've brewed that particular beer before, but just thinking through it from a percentage basis.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:45 AM   #487
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Did you previously whirlpool with a spoon, like I do? Just trying to understand what the improvement is based on.
Yes, previously I've used a spoon. The results were as good or better - need more data points (aka more beer) to make a final judgement.

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One other question. How was your efficiency compared to previous batches? Not sure if you've brewed that particular beer before, but just thinking through it from a percentage basis.
It was down a bit (~5%) from what I've been seeing but I milled this at home. I usually get my recipes pre-ground from Brewmasters Warehouse - this batch was from my local homebrew shop. Again more data points/beer needed.

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Old 06-28-2011, 02:47 AM   #488
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I like your idea Chris, that is what my dip tube mod looks like to drain the beer. i was thinking about your mod and might add about 15 inches of silicone tubing so the wort actually exits at the top of the wort chiller. I think Jamal had a picture of this on one of the brew forums, it was for a basic kettle, not the Speidel, but for anyone using the immersion chiller. I will try and find the link.

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Yambor44 - the 20l has one pump.

hfk2 - I ran it with the immersion chiller to get to temp then removed the chiller and whirlpooled for another 10 minutes or so, shutoff the pump and let it all settle out. The cone wasn't perfect but it was an improvement from before.

-Chris

 
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:54 AM   #489
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I found the link for a cool mod to make a whirlpooling immersion chiller. Read the whole article-- really informative and interesting. One note, the extra copper in the picture is just a reflection not another chiller. Seems like we could put a piece of tubing into the output of the pump and let it exit right at the chiller. Any of you engineer types give it a try and report back. Here is the link:
http://www.mrmalty.com/chiller.php


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I like your idea Chris, that is what my dip tube mod looks like to drain the beer. i was thinking about your mod and might add about 15 inches of silicone tubing so the wort actually exits at the top of the wort chiller. I think Jamal had a picture of this on one of the brew forums, it was for a basic kettle, not the Speidel, but for anyone using the immersion chiller. I will try and find the link.

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Old 06-28-2011, 03:55 PM   #490
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I'm at page 12-13 and saw a nice blueprint for a dip tube for the 20L unit. Sure my physics is rusty but how come a pipe that is bent low is able to suck wort up?

The problem I had was that when I was tipping the unit forward to get last of the wort to flow into the FV, unless I had the BM over the edge of the table the unit was resting on the control unit which I reckon isn't healthy.

 
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