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Old 11-10-2011, 07:59 PM   #1061
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Had my second Braumeister 20L brewday yesterday, and thought to share the experience. I brewed the same recipe (Pale Wheat) as before just changed up some things:

Ground Pils, Wheat seperately and finer. (Malt Conditioning leaves the husk, pericap mostly intact).
Filled with water to 25L mark, filled to 23L last time.
Changed mash schedule to include a feurilic acid rest.
Changed bittering hops, just adjusted for what I had on hand.
Checked Tmp, pH, EC, and SG along the way.

As per hfk2's cheescloth fix:


This way less flour and bits end up on the wrong side:


Post Mash-In, just as 1st phase was starting:


End of Mash-Out:

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I sparged to a separate bucket, 2L at a time, for a total of 8L. Sparge SG went down from 1.028 to 1.024. I should have collected more, pH was 5.9.

With the thermal cover and the lid mostly on I got a boil off of 0.88GL for a total boil off of 1.32GL, which gave me an evaporation rate of 14.7%. I prefer 10%ish, so either will leave boil program at 100*C or will remove thermal cover once boil is underway and better adjust the opening of the lid.

This time around I ended up 6 points over. I was concerned about a stuck mash, but the malt conditioning and filling up with a couple of extra liters of H2O over the suggested kept the flow going pretty good.

I have a couple of other wheat recipes to brew, then I will try some saison recipes with simpler mash schedules and shorter boil times.

So far both Braumeister brewdays were approx. 10hrs including prep and cleanup. Not bad for 4-5 step mash schedule with a 90min boil. I would like to see if I could get an occasional 10GL batch done in that time. Makomachine put out the great idea of mashing in the Braumeister then transfering the wort to the stovetop for the first boil while the second batch gets added to the Braumeister.

Now all I need to do is build a couple more fermenters:



Thanks again to all the contributers, 2 Braumeister brews done and I am looking forward to the next one.



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Old 11-10-2011, 08:46 PM   #1062
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10 hours?! My AG brew days with an Igloo cooler mash tun aren't that long. What was your mash/boil schedule?


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Old 11-10-2011, 10:03 PM   #1063
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Mash Schedule: Braumeister-20L-Weyermann-SM
Total Grain Weight: 10.00 lb
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 25.00 l of water and heat to 95.0 F 95.0 F 20 min <-This is not a phase, and is manually timed.
Feurilic Acid Heat to 113.0 F over 18 min 113.0 F 10 min
Protein Rest Heat to 126.0 F over 13 min 126.0 F 10 min
Beta Heat to 144.0 F over 10 min 144.0 F 30 min
Alpha Heat to 162.0 F over 10 min 162.0 F 30 min
Mash Out Heat to 172.0 F over 10 min 172.0 F 10 min
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Thats about 3hrs. Then a 90min boil. I started my brewday at around 10:00 and was done by 20:00. The brewing itself only took approx. 5 1/2hrs. My past all grain brews were around 8hrs. Preparing things beforehand (grinding grains, and all the little details) would help reduce that time by a bit. I was also taking lots of measurements during the process. I'll time and document the various stages next time to have a better idea of where the time went. I didn't notice the time till the washing was done.

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Old 11-12-2011, 03:36 PM   #1064
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hey getafix. i see youre from canada. where did you get your braumeister? cheers
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:38 PM   #1065
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http://www.homebrew-supplies.ca/viar...ategory_id=251

As far as I know Randy the owner is the Canadian distributor. He has been stocking both the 20 and 50L in small quantities. He is very easy to deal with and overall his pricing is fair. Hope that helps.

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Old 11-12-2011, 06:58 PM   #1066
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I've got a bunch of Wit and Wheat beers on my todo list that will benefit from the Braumeisters mashing abilities, but I would also like some shorter brewdays. The occasional 10gl batch would be nice as well.

15lbs grain seems to be the upper limit for the 20L, perhaps between maximum sparge collection and a small top up pre-boil, a batch size of 9.5gl with an OG of 1.043 can be achieved. The wort would have to be split between the Braumeister and another kettle for the boil. Then with the right yeast an FG of 1.002 can bring the ABV to approx. 5.1%. It sounds like another opportunity to brew a Saison with Wyeast 3711.
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Recipe: SAISON-15lbs-9.24gl
Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 11.13 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 9.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 9.24 gal
Estimated OG: 1.043 SG
Estimated IBU: 22.0 IBUs
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
13.19 gal Toronto Ontario, Canada Water 1 -
14.00 lb Pilsner (Weyermann) (1.7 SRM) Grain 2 93.3 %
1.00 lb Carawheat (Weyermann) (50.0 SRM) Grain 3 6.7 %
2.40 g Cascade [5.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 1.2 IBUs
34.25 g Cascade [5.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 15.4 IBUs
17.00 g Cascade [5.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 3.9 IBUs
12.00 g Cascade [5.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 1.4 IBUs
5.60 g Cascade [5.00 %] - Aroma Steep 5.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg French Saison-H1 (Wyeast Labs #3711) [50 Yeast 9 -
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I'll still be happy even if I end up with 9gl batch size, it'll give me a good starting point to tweak from. My pipeline is filling up, I can finally consider longterm storage for some.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:54 PM   #1067
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A strong contender for the next brew is this Dubbel:

Recipe: DUBBEL-15lbs-9.24gl
Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 11.13 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 9.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 9.24 gal
Estimated OG: 1.058 SG
Estimated Color: 14.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 18.0 IBUs
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12.93 gal Toronto Ontario, Canada Water 1 -
14.00 lb Pilsner (Weyermann) (1.7 SRM) Grain 2 75.7 %
1.00 lb Special B (Dingemans) (147.5 SRM) Grain 3 5.4 %
5.72 g Hallertauer [3.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 m Hop 4 1.7 IBUs
1.50 lb Dememera Sugar (2.0 SRM) Sugar 5 8.1 %
1.00 lb Belgian Candi Syrup - Dark (Dark Candi I Sugar 6 5.4 %
1.00 lb Cane (Beet) Sugar (0.0 SRM) Sugar 7 5.4 %
22.74 g Styrian Goldings [7.00 %] - Boil 60.0 mi Hop 8 14.4 IBUs
14.08 g Hallertauer [3.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 9 1.9 IBUs
15.00 g Coriander Seed (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 10 -
7.84 g Hallertauer [3.00 %] - Aroma Steep 5.0 m Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Abbey IV Ale Yeast (White Labs #WLP540) Yeast 12 -
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This style is great for 10gl batches, the sugars makeup for alot. This will have a simpler mash schedule with just a 20min mash-in, a 60min conversion, a 10min mash-out, and a 60min boil. I already have a Saison aging.
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:32 AM   #1068
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I've only seen pics of the 50L's pumps. This is for the 20L.


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thanks for the help getafix. i have the option of buying the braumeister in the USA as well so i'm just figuring out the best deal. seems like you like your purchase so far???
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:24 AM   #1070
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Quote:
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I've only seen pics of the 50L's pumps. This is for the 20L.
Interresting.
That's a different pump than on my 20L from ca october 2010 (Anlage # 77X). Mine is blue and of the brand Vortex, model BW152 OT.

Is this an adaptation for the American market? Yours says 50/60 Hz, mine says 50Hz only.

Is this new pump the solution to or the cause of the reported pump issues?


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