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Old 02-27-2011, 08:28 PM   #1
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Want to control 2, 5500w elements with "ONE" Pid.. dont know if its been covered, if so point the way.

 
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:46 PM   #2
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Do you mean using the same PID to work both the MLT and boil kettle?

I'm curious if anyone has done a switched RTD probe input. I'd think it would increase the chance of making a mistake, but a good question.

 
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:34 PM   #3
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Yes, Both the way i see it 2 SSr and 2 rtd sensors , just detach rtd from HLT plug into boil kettle . The 2 SSr's would be the thing to figure out. Maybe connect both to PID???

 
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:46 PM   #4
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Double-R

I'm doing just that with my setup, check out my thread. Simple eHERMS with P-J schematics. Something like that, just to lazy to link since on my phone.

 
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:14 AM   #5
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Want to control 2, 5500w elements with "ONE" Pid.. dont know if its been covered, if so point the way.
Squeeky's Diagram:

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The temp probe stays in the HLT. Don't move it. The PID gets switched to manual mode to control the boil. BTW - you only need one SSR as the element switch is a double poll - double throw - center off switch.

 
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:01 AM   #6
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THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU. I'am in. EVER BODY TO

 
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:04 AM   #7
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Double-R feel free to shoot me a PM if you have questions. P-J walked me through a lot so if you have questions I probably have answers. Currently awaiting a free day to build my control panel. I decided recently that I want to mount my march pump in a toolbox with the panel.

If you looking to save costs, I recommend batch sparging so you only have 1 pump. There is also the option on 2 tiers, one pump, fly sparge.

 
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:42 AM   #8
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Is there any reason you couldn't use two thermocouples and use a switch so I would be able to see temps in both the HLT and BK?
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:52 AM   #9
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Is there any reason you couldn't use two thermocouples and use a switch so I would be able to see temps in both the HLT and BK?
You could do that - But - why bother with the boil kettle temp? Water simmer boils at 212F & a very vigirous boil is also at 212F.

 
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:33 AM   #10
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You could do that - But - why bother with the boil kettle temp? Water simmer boils at 212F & a very vigirous boil is also at 212F.
Yeah that's true. My reason for wanting it is only to see how close to boil I'm getting, and maybe to monitor temps during cooling and whirlpool. Might now be worth the hassle, and extra hole in the Kettle.
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