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Old 02-25-2011, 07:19 PM   #1
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I am very careful about sanitation. But after spending the week driving around MO for work and listening to pretty much every episode of Brewstrong on podcast Jamil has me worried that I am not careful enough.

Jamil makes it sound like that one little tiny speck of dust in your beer after the boil is going to infect your beer with bacteria and wild yeast. He goes as far to say he won't brew in the wind. Now I understand you want to take precautions and prevent this as much as possible but is he being a little anal about the whole thing?
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:21 PM   #2
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Yes. Some people can't help it. They're anal. Most people who think they know everything usually are.

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Old 02-25-2011, 07:24 PM   #3
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99.9% of the time a speck of dust will be insignificant. You are (hopefully) inoculating billions upon billions of active yeast cells, into their prime environment, and they will take charge and overwhelm the intruders.

I think sanitation is extremely important but anyone who has brewed a few dozen batches has had some pretty unsavory things fall into the fermenter, with little or no effect. I personally have had a grungy baseball cap fall in, a shattered broken lightbulb, and a half of an egg roll that was thrown at me. All turned out fine.

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Old 02-25-2011, 07:28 PM   #4
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99.9% of the time a speck of dust will be insignificant. You are (hopefully) inoculating billions upon billions of active yeast cells, into their prime environment, and they will take charge and overwhelm the intruders.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:33 PM   #5
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yes. Some people can't help it. They're anal. Most people who think they know everything usually are.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:36 PM   #6
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99.9% of the time a speck of dust will be insignificant. You are (hopefully) inoculating billions upon billions of active yeast cells, into their prime environment, and they will take charge and overwhelm the intruders.
That's kind of what I was thinking. He was even talking about flaming the carboy opening when dry hopping or something. Palmer never seems to chime in and agree with him but he never argues either.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:36 PM   #7
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Agreed.

HOWEVER:

It's not the airborne goop on dust that will cause most home brewers problems. IMO, it's the hoses that aren't totally cleaned out, or the ball valve you forgot to rinse, or that scratched plastic bucket. All the little sanitation errors are cumulative, and I have had to dump beer because of sanitation-related off-flavors that were truly awful.

So, Sanitize as best you can, and figure out how you can do it better, but don't freak out about it if there's a mistake. I've reached my entire arm, hair and all into cooled wort to unclog a drain tube before, and the beer turned out OK.

 
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Agreed.

HOWEVER:

It's not the airborne goop on dust that will cause most home brewers problems. IMO, it's the hoses that aren't totally cleaned out, or the ball valve you forgot to rinse, or that scratched plastic bucket. All the little sanitation errors are cumulative, and I have had to dump beer because of sanitation-related off-flavors that were truly awful.

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YES ! Well stated. Most sources of infection arise on your own equipment, not bacterial paratroopers that are coming in from your household air.

 
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:01 PM   #9
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Yes. Some people can't help it. They're anal. Most people who think they know everything usually are.
So well said, I want to send you my last paycheck. HAHAAHAHAH!! Good one...

 
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:04 PM   #10
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" Is a little speck of dust really going to infect my beer ?"

that depends. did horton really hear a who?

do the best you can, and if something DOES get germy, get medieval on your whole system right away. it saves worrying all the time.
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