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Old 02-17-2011, 02:27 AM   #1
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I'm working on my Brutus style system and I'm trying to Figure out my gas system needs. I have banjo burners and since they have 3/8" flare fittings I was thinking that I could just run 3/8" lines from my gas manifold to each burner. Any thoughts or experience doing this!

Also, I have a 0-30 psi regulator with a 1/4" line from the regulator to the output. I'm thinking that the 1/4" may not be able to supply the volume of LPG if all 3 burners are in operation. Any thoughts or experience doing this?

Ive been debating going with Honeywell solenoids with auto pilots or Asco solenoids and I may just go with Asco valves and a pilot system like Lonnies or a honeywell pilot and incorporate this with an Asco. I know the thoughts of having an auto pilot incase the pilots blows out, but I brew in my garage and the highest wind speed isnprobably .5 mph. Any thoughts or experience doing this?

I'll get some pics up of my build along with some thermal imaging pictures I took so that I could see the heat transfer throughout the stand.
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:15 AM   #2
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What? No feedback! Well here are some pics of what I've got so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2575507...7625951149057/
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:34 PM   #3
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I have a lot of these same questions about gas supply and what not so if you figure it out let me know.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:39 PM   #4
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I used 1/4" to 3/8" high temp hoses for those connections.

http://www.agrisupply.com/lp-gas-hos...08/cn/5400001/

I ran 1/2" pipe, 3/8" ball valves and the needed reducers to make it all fit.
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:01 PM   #5
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Gas supply is easy. Figure out what size your burner supply connection is and use that for all of your piping. Just make sure you have a 3/8" SAE Gas Swivel Flare Connector as this is what your propane hose will connect to. You might need to have a reducer coupling to match the propane input to your device. Also it is best to use a set-able high pressure regulator even if you have LP burners as you can regulate the pressure yourself. Also you will need this ability to be able to obtain high btu's and a low pressure regulator will fail to impress you.
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:27 AM   #6
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It's pretty simple after you look back at it all. A picture is worth a thousand words. 1/2 black pipe, 4 tee's, 1 90 elbow, yellow teflon gas tape for threads, flare tool to flare copper pipe for pilot (if thats what you want). Yellow gas flex hose to connect to burners, 5 gas ball valves, 2 -120 volt gas solenoid valves, 0-30 psi regulator (for high pressure banjos). 2- love controllers on your control box. I used copper as the wiring conduit for the solenoid valves and 1/2 electrical conduit hangers to mount it to the frame. I like it low and well below the heat area. I hope this helps.
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:10 PM   #7
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Why would you need to run all three burners at the same time?

That said, you can run a 1/2" rail the reduces down to 1/4" for each burner and that's going to supply plenty of gas and I think you'll find it will make plumbing a lot easier as most of the gas valves, solenoids, etc. are 1/4".
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:40 PM   #8
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You don't run all 3 burners at the same time. Mostly 2 are running at any one time. The solenoid valves are opened/closed via the commands from the love temp controller. While the mash is going on, you may be heating sparge water. Once the mash is done, sparge produces about 3 gallons in the boil kettle,the boil kettle is fired up. Once the sparge is complete, the HLT an Mash tun are shut down completely. 1/2 fits everything and is readily available. I haven't looked into 1/4 inch. I would like to see a brutus using 1/4 soleniods or even 3/8 solenoids. That would probably bring down the cost. Has anybody done this? The valves are easy to find.
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:11 PM   #9
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For less than the cost of new "ASCO" solenoids you can purchase the low pressure Honeywell standing pilot furnace valves and pilots. This lets you do safe automation later without having to add ignition components. The conversion of the burners to low pressure is accomplished with a 3/32" drill bit and a low pressure propane regulator.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:15 PM   #10
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I am using 1/4" solenoids in mine - the ones from valves4projects on ebay.
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