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Old 02-09-2011, 07:07 PM   #11
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I was a bit curious of this myself. I'm fermenting my first American Style Lager and it called for rice syrup (ended up using rice syrup solids). From what I've read the rice syrup only adds fermentable sugars without adding taste or color (of course upping the alcohol will affect the taste).

Would you just be able to add rice syrup to up the alcohol content?
Well, that's the whole purpose of rice syrup. That's why the American Light Lager is so light. It uses Corn or Rice to increase the fermentability without adding mouthfeel or flavors.

So the question is, do you want to do that? For some styles it best to add some and bump up the ABV while keeping it light and refreshing. But it's not for every recipe or style. Simply adding syrups can change the entire balance of a beer, and one that was perfect without, may be hot, or thin, or hoppy with.

 
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Old 02-09-2011, 07:50 PM   #12
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Depends on what I'm making. I've added plain table sugar to the boil, light or dark brown sugar, fruit extract/syrup, honey, even Booster bought through Mr. Beer kit website.
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:13 AM   #13
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I actually have a friend who is fermenting a northern nut brown ale at my place. It's been in the primary for three week. Took readings over the last two days and it's at 2% alcohol with a really strong nutty flavor. He was thinking of boiling some rice syrup solids in a very small amount of water, cool it down, then dump it into the primary to see if the yeast will pick back up and ferment a second time.

I'm not really sure what will happen or if that will even work or if it will end up ruining the beer. Right now it just tastes like a really watered down nutty ale.

 
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:42 AM   #14
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Is your purpose to have good beer or just to get drunk? I've heard that grain alcohol is cheap. You could just dump a bunch of that into your beer but don't blame me if it isn't drinkable. The purpose of the recipes and recipe kits is to produce a good tasting beer to fit within a style. Adding sugar or rice syrup will change that and a lot of the time it won't be for the better.

 
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:45 AM   #15
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Just add more extract or more grains per gallon.
try sugar,molassis. corn,table.honey, if you dont like them dont use them.Best thing is to just increase your fermentables with base grains and or extract.

 
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Old 02-11-2011, 04:06 AM   #16
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I actually have a friend who is fermenting a northern nut brown ale at my place. It's been in the primary for three week. Took readings over the last two days and it's at 2% alcohol with a really strong nutty flavor. He was thinking of boiling some rice syrup solids in a very small amount of water, cool it down, then dump it into the primary to see if the yeast will pick back up and ferment a second time.

I'm not really sure what will happen or if that will even work or if it will end up ruining the beer. Right now it just tastes like a really watered down nutty ale.
2% isn't possible. I bet he's reading the "potential alcohol" scale on the hydrometer which isn't the correct scale to be looking at. Look at the Specific gravity scale and see what it is. That will tell you the final gravity. You need to subtract that from the original gravity and do a bit of math to find the actual ABV. 2% is NOT correct, though! We can help you with the actual ABV if you tell us the original reading or the reading the instructions told you to expect.

If you want to ruin a probably decent beer, then go ahead and have him add the rice syrup solids. I'd skip that and do the math, though!
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:05 AM   #17
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You can add a bunch of table sugar, dextrose, honey, corn syrup, brown sugar, or whatever you want. The only drawback is more sugar= more conditioning time. 1 lbs of sugar or less in most beers is not a problem, but 2-2.5 lbs will need many months of conditioning, or it tastes like crap. On the other hand, a large amount of sugar in your beer combined with a long conditioning period produces excellent tasting beers, Duvel and many other excellent beers are made this way
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:44 AM   #18
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Make a 5 gallon extract kit with 4 gallons of water.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:00 AM   #19
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Make a 5 gallon extract kit with 4 gallons of water.
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Probably the easiest answer to increasing ABV without knocking a recipe out of balance. Then use a higher ABV attenuating yeast such as Fermentis S-33 or T-58

 
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