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Old 01-26-2011, 07:00 PM   #1
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...and I was a bit disappointed. The smell/aroma is phenomenal but I'm wondering where I missed on this one. At first my thoughts were that it was overly bitter, but then I realized that there are some super bitter IPAs out there (Ruination for example) that I love, so I think a better descriptor would be "harsh." Also, the mouthfeel is a bit watery and it just doesn't seem like there is any noticeable malt/complexity to hold it up. I think my OG came out low around 1.063 but thats just a guess, as I have recently discovered that my refractometer wasn't calibrated and I originally thought it was 1.071.

I admit that I had high expectations for this one since I have had actual fresh Pliny, but I'm just wondering if there's any way to improve upon the harsh/bitter quality and lack of body that I'm perceiving. I've heard that Russian River uses a hop extract so maybe thats the magic to it?

I'm not majorly bummed and the beer is still completely drinkable, but I just wish that the taste would have lived up to the aroma! Anyways, just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience or can shed any light on mine. Thanks.

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:32 PM   #2
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Recipe would help if you're lookin for help

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:40 PM   #3
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Recipe is in the title, it's Dude's "Pliny the Elder" clone. Here's the link:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f69/pliny-bastid-21229/

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:14 PM   #4
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pliny has a fairly bitter aftertaste

also, the recipe you linked to is 278 IBU

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:22 PM   #5
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At what stage is your beer? Finished? Bottled? Fermenter?

The time line of your beer is as important to the flavor as the ingredient list.

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:23 PM   #6
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Quote:
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pliny has a fairly bitter aftertaste
I would have to disagree...I think Pliny is way smoother and well balanced for its IBU's than any IPA I have had. Not nearly as bitter as a Green Flash West Coast IPA, Smuttynose Finest Kind IPA, and many other examples.

I guess thats what I am getting at though...with this hop schedule, is the harsh bitterness inevitable or did it show through in my batch because I didn't hit my gravity and there isnt enough malt character to balance it?

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:26 PM   #7
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12/26/2010: Brewed -->Primary, Secondary/Dry Hopped --> 1/25/2011: Bottled/Kegged

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:55 PM   #8
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I read the title and I thought this was a Pliny/arrogant bastard hybrid

 
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:00 PM   #9
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Quote:
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12/26/2010: Brewed -->Primary, Secondary/Dry Hopped --> 1/25/2011: Bottled/Kegged
Your beer tastes nothing (now) like the finished product will.

 
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:33 AM   #10
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biermuncher, when do you consider a beer finished?

 
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