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Old 02-13-2007, 02:04 AM   #1
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Greetings,
I've been learning the benefits of leaving beer alone(!) to condition till it gets good, and I'm starting to see how it (the brew) changes over time.
My question here is, Do the same rules apply to cider? I just bottled my first few bottles of pear cider from a kit, was especially careful with sanitation, followed all the instructions that came with it (near as I can tell, as they were all geared toward kegging). What came out was perfectly clear, light golden colored (more Corona yellow than Mott's Apple Juice yellow), no floaters, no hair, no slime. It has a sweet-ish taste, but a powerful Not Sweet smell. Not exactly bad (my wife says "yeasty") but enough to make you jump back after a sniff.
Is this something that will change with age?
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:21 AM   #2
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Oh, totally! If you were to whip up an experimental batch, and just opened it up, one bottle a month (if you have that kind of patience) you'd notice a serious improvement by the sixth-month batch.
Seriously- just let it sit for about a month or so- you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:34 AM   #3
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Whew! That's good to hear. My first batch of beer never *didn't* smell or taste like some kind of beer, even during transfer to the secondary. The cider was very sweet smelling when I mixed it up in the primary.
As for the patience thing, I guess I'll just have to do what everyone suggests; drink a craft brew and start another batch of something!
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:54 AM   #4

Yes, That's one thing this hobby teaches. Patience.

Waitin' has it just rewards. You are right keep brewing so you can drink beer or cider when it needs to be drunk!! If you keep brewing you'll have a supply where you never have too drink one too early.

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Old 02-13-2007, 02:50 PM   #5
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I like to give straight cider 5-6 months and even more if I've used some honey or fruit.
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:52 AM   #6
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Had to go ahead and sample, even though it's only been 45 days or so...
Not too bad! Still a little green (does that term apply to cider too?) but definately not like it was at bottling (which of these smileys is for "teeth set on edge, eyes rolling back...). Sweetness is about like straight juice, as opposed to sweetened juice drinks. Almost no aroma, very, very slightly carbonated.


 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:35 AM   #7
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the 1-2-3 rules applies to cider just like beer . . . except instead of weeks use months
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:37 AM   #8

I made my caramel apple cider (Affy Tapple ~7.5%) last October, I first tasted at Xmas. It was really aweful. I drank some a few weeks ago. Its greatly improved.

As it stands now I would only drink it If I was completely out. My absolute last choice. If I needed the bottles I'd dump 'em.

I had a similar experience with my honey-blueberry beer. It was a weird beer. I couldn't get use to the blueberry essence. It took about 5-6 months to get clear, another 2-3 months to smooth out. Its not on the remake list.

My Apfelwein will probably be more like your cider. Its almost done at 11 weeks in the primary. It tastes pretty good to me, it has the subtle beer-like taste that should mellow with time. Even though its not 100% done its pretty clear right now. I'm hoping it drops .004 more points so I can bottle w/o worrying about bottle bombs. I'm thinking its ok now but I can believe it been going this long. It bottomed out at 53'F around the super bowl.

Yes - Waiting is the name of the game here. Can't wait to start making ales that I can drink in as little as 6 weeks. My basement is now been at 60'F for two weeks. Yeeha!! I'm getting tired on the long lager ferments.

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Old 03-21-2007, 02:40 AM   #9

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the 1-2-3 rules applies to cider just like beer . . . except instead of weeks use months

Pumba - I'm gonna remember that next time. Do you re-pitch for carbing if you plan to bottle? I assume you keg????
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:50 AM   #10
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dont keg yet and I like my cider still . . .
but I dont think you would have to repitch if you wanted it carbed
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