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Old 01-14-2011, 06:20 AM   #1
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Can someone help me with this...Im looking to brew a 5 gallon batch of this Kate the Great clone but only have the percent composition of each grain in the total grist. How do you go about calculating how many pounds of each grain are needed for this sized batch?

When we brew a batch of Kate we use 77% Pale malt, 2% Crystal 45, 1% Caramel 120, 1% Chocolate malt,1% Black malt, 3% Carafa DH# 3 (Weyerman),3.5% Wheat malt 3.5% Flaked Barley, 2% Roasted malt,3.5% Special B, 2.5% Aromatic.

 
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:38 AM   #2
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Use a recipe program like beercalculus or promash.

 
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:52 AM   #3
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You can calculate it by hand, but it requires some math labor, especially with that many grains. The software programs have the calculations built in. You'll need to know what your brewhouse efficiency is as well. You'd just enter all the grains in the software then play around with the amounts until the percentages are right.

 
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:02 AM   #4
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ok i just tried messing around with beersmith (i've never used it before) and i was able to add all the grains and tweak them to the correct percentages, with a 70% efficiency...only problem is that its telling me I need about 40lbs of grain for a 5.0gal batch! Also, I noticed that it locked in the boil volume at 5.87gal (when I would really want it to be 6.5gal) and it calculated my OG to be 1.199 when its supposed to be 1.104 ...help?

 
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:16 AM   #5
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ok i just tried messing around with beersmith (i've never used it before) and i was able to add all the grains and tweak them to the correct percentages, with a 70% efficiency...only problem is that its telling me I need about 40lbs of grain for a 5.0gal batch! Also, I noticed that it locked in the boil volume at 5.87gal (when I would really want it to be 6.5gal) and it calculated my OG to be 1.199 when its supposed to be 1.104 ...help?
your OG is probably high because you have 40# of grain in the recipe.

can you decrease the amount of grain? Remember, the % is relative... in other words, you can have 90# pale malt and 10# roasted, or 9# and 1# respectively... either way, you have 90% pale malt.

I cant help more since I dont use beersmith... maybe someone who does will recognize something more specific to the program.
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:14 PM   #6
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The math is really pretty easy.

Grain bill

original target gu * total volume = total gu

% of fermentable * total gu = gu of fermentable

gu of fermentable / extract potentail / % effciancy = lbs

 
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:18 PM   #7
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Cool, I'd always wondered what was in that beer. I was also under the impression they used some brown sugar.
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:22 PM   #8

Grab my brewsheet. It's in OpenOffice format but recent versions of MS Excel will open it just fine. Go to the last sheet (useful formulas) and take a look at the Batch Scaling section. It will let you input your desired OG, batch size, brewhouse efficiency, grains, and grain %. It will compute the amount (weight) of each grain for your specifications. I use it all the time to convert recipes for my system.

 
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:29 PM   #9
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Here are my back of the envelop numbers. Most breweries just do grainbills as a straight percentage by weight, not based on the percent of extract (which I only use for sugar additions).

@70% Efficiency OG 1.104
77% - Pale - 18.5 lbs
3.5% Wheat Malt - .84 lbs
3.5% Flaked Barley - .84 lbs
3.5% Special B - .84 lbs
3% Carafa Special III - .75 lbs
2.5% Aromatic - .6 lbs
2% Roasted - .5 lbs
2% C45 - .5 lbs
1% C120 - .25 lbs
1% Chocolate - .25 lbs
1% Black - .25 lbs
Brown Sugar ?

Looks pretty reasonable to me, 1.75 lbs of dark malt, about the same of crystal.

I'd probably brew it and expect 65% efficiency due to the large grainbill, and get the remaining ~.007 from unrefined brown sugar.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:21 PM   #10
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Grab my brewsheet. It's in OpenOffice format but recent versions of MS Excel will open it just fine. Go to the last sheet (useful formulas) and take a look at the Batch Scaling section. It will let you input your desired OG, batch size, brewhouse efficiency, grains, and grain %. It will compute the amount (weight) of each grain for your specifications. I use it all the time to convert recipes for my system.
thanks for this, looks pretty handy. And thanks to oldstock for the numbers.

What does "GU" stand for in the previous formula?

 
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