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Old 01-13-2011, 03:06 AM   #11
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I've brewed several wheats with 3068. You should have strong banana at the fermentation temp you mention. At lower temps I get more of a clovey or bubble-gum flavor.

I've had them after a year and the banana is still there.

I have to believe that there was a yeast screw-up. Really. Or, as someone else mentioned, you overhopped the beer. Did you have any hop additions after the bittering addition? I.e., additions with less than 30 minutes left in the boil would not be appropriate.
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:54 AM   #12
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The degradation i wrote earlier takes place in beer that is naturally conditioned & carbonated - no cold crushing, no forced carbonation, natural contitioning with the same yeast that fermented beer. Some of my fellow brewers do not confirm such degradation, while others see the same effect in theirs, i don't know why that difference. Anyway, we had 2 competitions here in 2010 where one of categories was weissbier, both was won by beers that was very young, not older than 4 weeks.

I saw this in all my weissbiers (underpitched + hot fermented @68F):

- 1 week, overly banana flavor covers all other flavors & aromas, the aroma is like bucket of fresh bananas
- 2 weeks, clove & banana starts to balance, but still all these aromas are very strong
- 6 weeks, banana begins to fade
- 8 weeks, tart flavor dominates banana
- 10 weeks, tart flavor slightly fades, light banana and clove is present (at this point the beer resembles most of German "hefe weissbier hell")

For me, it's best to drink weissbiers when young, 2-8 weeks after bottling, but YMMV.
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