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Old 02-09-2007, 05:17 PM   #1
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I tried Doggie-style Pale Ale for the first time last night and was really impressed. With the Flying Dog yeast as the current VSS from Wyeast, I thought I would see if I could clone it.

Flying Dog was nice and made it easy for us. They posted some recipe guidelines on their brewery news blog.

Here is what they said about the yeast and recipe:

Flying Dog “VSS” Home Brewer Recipe
January 11th, 2007

The brewers at Flying Dog Brewery are excited to partner with Wyeast and introduce our house strain (Flying Dog 1737) as the next edition of the “Very Special Strain” series and now available to home brewers everywhere.

First, a little background on our proprietary, award-winning, Flying Dog 1737 yeast strain. This yeast has been our primary ale strain since Flying Dog Brewery started production over thirteen years ago in Aspen, CO. We are now based in Denver, CO and use it our Doggie-Style Classic Pale Ale, Snake Dog IPA, Road Dog Porter, K-9 Cruiser Winter Ale and our Gonzo Imperial Porter. The Flying Dog 1737 yeast strain has produced several Great American Beer Festival medal winners.

For all of the home brewers, here are some of the specifics you will want to know when working with this strain. This ale yeast is a vigorous fermentor, producing ales with a complex, malty profile. This yeast will give an attenuation of approximately 68% to 71%, has good flocculation, and ferments in the 65F to 72F temperature range. A typical primary fermentation should be complete within 4 to 7 days and total fermentation time can be as little as 16 days. We recommend ensuring proper wort aeration to allow for complete attenuation.

To enhance your home brewing experience with this yeast, we would like to give you a chance to brew your own version of our award-winning Doggie-Style Classic Pale Ale with a scaled down recipe to accommodate a smaller brew system:

Volume is not specified to allow brewers to tailor amounts to meet their desired results.

OG: 13.0
FG: 3.5
IBU: 45
SRM: 20

90% 2-Row Pale Malt
9% Crystal 90L
1% Chocolate

N Brewer (7.5%) Bittering
Cascade (6.8%) Aroma
Cascade Dry Hop

Mash grains at 152F for 45 minutes
90 Minute boil N Brewer at beginning of boil targeting 40-45 IBU
Add Cascades at end of boil
Dry hop with Cascades after primary

Ferment with Wyeast 1737 Flying Dog Ale Yeast 68F
Aerate wort well primary fermentation should be complete within 5 to 7 days

Good luck with our VSS 1737 yeast and your future brewing endeavors and thanks again for you interest and support of the Flying Dog Brewery! Cheers!
I am wondering if the SRM of 20 is a typo. The beer certainly didn't seem like it was that dark. Also when I put the guidelines into ProMash, I came up with a SRM of 14.

Here is my recipe below. Comments or Suggestions are welcomed.

Flying Dog Doggie Style Pale Ale

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines

10-A American Ale, American Pale Ale

Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.060
Min IBU: 30 Max IBU: 54
Min Clr: 5 Max Clr: 14 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics

Batch Size (Gal): 6.00 Wort Size (Gal): 6.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 11.84
Anticipated OG: 1.053 Plato: 13.04
Anticipated SRM: 14.0
Anticipated IBU: 43.7
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Formulas Used

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %


% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
90.0 10.66 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
9.0 1.07 lbs. Crystal 90L America 1.033 90
1.0 0.12 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
1.20 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 43.7 60 min.
1.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 5.75 0.0 0 min.
1.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 5.75 0.0 Dry Hop


Mash Schedule

Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs: 11.84
Water Qts: 14.21 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 3.55 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.20 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 152 Time: 60
Mash-out Rest Temp : 168 Time: 10
Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 60

Total Mash Volume Gal: 4.50 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.

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Old 02-09-2007, 06:40 PM   #2
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Completely off topic but I always have to hold back a chuckle when the hot/cute waitress asks me if I want another of the "Doggie Style". Yes...I know....pathetic.

You can have your thread back now.

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Old 04-30-2007, 11:54 PM   #3
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Thanks a lot seyahmit!!!
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:57 AM   #4
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So the 1% chocolate is for color purpose only ? I dout they use that for flavor. Am I correct in thinking this ?

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Old 05-01-2007, 07:05 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by gabe
So the 1% chocolate is for color purpose only ? I dout they use that for flavor. Am I correct in thinking this ?

Thanks for the recipe, seyahmit...Gives me a basis for the Double Dog I'm going to try.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:58 PM   #6
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Anyone have a Flying Dog Classic Pale Ale clone extract recipe?

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Old 01-22-2009, 04:26 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by mosquitocontrol View Post
Anyone have a Flying Dog Classic Pale Ale clone extract recipe?
I do not but my brew club's next meeting is at their brewery(beginning of Feb), if their are any specific questions anyone has I would be happy to ask the brewer.

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Old 01-22-2009, 05:03 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by mosquitocontrol View Post
Anyone have a Flying Dog Classic Pale Ale clone extract recipe?
Just convert the one seyahmit posted. The Crystal and Chocolate can be steeped. My off the head guess here at work is that it is roughly a 1.052 OG brew.

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Old 01-25-2009, 07:08 PM   #9
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So I've tried BeerSmith for the first time to try to convert this recipe.This look about right?

I'm confused as to why there all only 1oz of hops being boiled. This is a very hoppy beer so I assumed there would be more. Does the dry hop add to the flavor? I thought dry hopping was just for aroma.

I put in California Ale as preliminary yeast, but I'm hoping if I go to the brewery next weekend they will be kind enough to let me have some yeast.

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Recipe: Flying Dog Pale Ale Clone
Brewer: KLD
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: Extract
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 4.08 gal
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 13.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 30.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: - %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.36 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 88.2 %
0.55 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 10.6 %
0.06 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 1.2 %
1.18 oz Northern Brewer [8.50%] (60 min) Hops 30.2 IBU
0.83 oz Cascade [5.50%] (0 min) Hops -
0.83 oz Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale

Mash Schedule: None
Total Grain Weight: 10.10 lb

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Old 02-17-2009, 01:59 PM   #10
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Did anyone try the AG clone posted seyahmit ? Tasted this beer lately and was really impressed.

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