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Old 01-03-2011, 02:39 AM   #1
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I am in the planning process of planning to build a small basement bar, and was thinking about maximizing space by using the flip top bar/counter (hinged to open up vertically). I have been trying to find someone who has a build like this online but must not be using the correct terminology cause I can't seem to find any pictures where to bar top lifts open to allow access. Does anyone know if there is a special term for this?

 
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:21 AM   #2
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I had some friends build a "Bofa" years ago. It was a sofa that folded up into a bar. You would stand in the base of the sofa and the bartop was the bottom of the sofa seat, which was inverted when opened.

If a bunch of broke, drunk guys can design and build that, I'm sure you will be fine.

Are you trying to access dry storage or cold/keg storage?
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:23 AM   #3
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most of em use 'piano hinges', not sure if that'll help your search
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:35 AM   #4
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Thanks Brewmonk, I have been searching terms like Flap Hinge and Piano Hinge. I can't seem to even find a good picture of a bar top like this. Maybe they are not common anymore due to problems with the hinge. Thanks again!

 
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:42 AM   #5
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I built a bar like that for someone a few years ago.

The one I made, was 2" thick walnut and the "flippable" section weighed about 40 pounds. I pictured it falling and taking a kids fingers off so I ended up convincing them to change it to a lift up, instead of a flip down.

I found some collapsible, locking shelf supports. They took a bit of adjustment, but worked like a charm.

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Old 01-03-2011, 03:49 AM   #6
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I didn't think of the missing fingers... That is something to be considered. SWMBO has allotted me a small corner of the basement for the Bar about 4.5 feet wide and 5.5 feet deep. I am picturing an L-shaped bar with the access to be on the short side of the bar using the flip up (or down) bar top with saloon style small door to match the face of the bar.

 
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:03 AM   #7
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To avoid missing fingers, just build in some small shocks. My dad and I built some built-in cabinets/window seats that double as a toy chest. We bought some heavy duty hinges/catches that make it nearly impossible for my boys to catch their hands in, even with the lid being 18" x 72" x 3/4" and having decorative trim. We considered piano hinges, but ultimately went with 3 strategically placed heavy duty brass hinges. 4+ years and no pinch fingers yet.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:17 AM   #8
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The drop down means you need a bit wider opening. But another advantage is that the top is not in the way, laying on the bar or sticking up in the air when you don't have it closed.

Here is a link to the support I think I used:
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10227

Here is a picture of the bar build in process:


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Old 01-03-2011, 04:29 AM   #9
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Found a shot with the top down;

 
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:16 PM   #10
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If a bunch of broke, drunk guys can design and build that, I'm sure you will be fine.


Use door hinges.. They'll hold up better to abuse than a piano hinge, and with a drop down top, they'll be completely hidden... plus, if you want to remove the thing, you won't have to remove any screws.. removing and reinstalling the flip top is as simple as pulling a couple pins...

The only problem with a drop down top, is that it might accidentally 'drop'.. so I'd be leery of putting anything that might break on it when it's up... IOW, it would just be for looks...

What's wrong with just using saloon doors and no top? How big is the area you have to work with and what all do you need to fit in it?
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