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Old 12-10-2010, 08:25 PM   #11
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Then why does everybody say not to use a vacuum pump on the plastic ones?
The glass ones aren't technically rated for negative pressures either, they just don't deform/collapse before they go critical.
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:30 PM   #12
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The glass ones aren't technically rated for negative pressures either, they just don't deform/collapse before they go critical.
I never had a problem with glass ones, but the vacuum is limited to 20 in/hg. In comparison a air conditioner vacuum can go almost to 30in/hg which is way too much. There has to be a cautious decision there.

 
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:10 PM   #13
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Neither one will handle infinite negative pressure but the BB won't shatter like a bomb into a million little pieces of glass shrapnel when it fails.

 
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:18 PM   #14
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BB FTW. All my carboys are Better Bottles except for one 6gal glass carboy. I have done many batches of beer in them, left beer and mead in them for months at a time with no ill effects. I even use a carboy brush on them to remove really stubborn krausen. A lot of people will recommend against it but I think the key is to be VERY gentle with it.

 
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:23 AM   #15
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Besides the dropping issue, it seems like I might be able to find a harmonious balance with both. I appreciate all the input guys, that's great. I'm not sure, however, I understand the 'suckback' issue. What exactly is that? Perhaps I know of it but call it some thing else? Again, thanks for the input!

 
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:47 AM   #16
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I have both and use both. I dont like the fact that I cannot use my vacuum sealer to degass on young wines in my BB so I just make sure they are in my glass instead.

I basically use whatever is cheaper because they are just used for aging til clarification for me. I transition to kegs for prolonged aging and use buckets for primarys so I can degass/step nutrient additions.

 
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:49 AM   #17
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Besides the dropping issue, it seems like I might be able to find a harmonious balance with both. I appreciate all the input guys, that's great. I'm not sure, however, I understand the 'suckback' issue. What exactly is that? Perhaps I know of it but call it some thing else? Again, thanks for the input!
The plastic is not rigid. When you have it full of liquid and pick it up, the bottom pulls down and sucks through your airlock. One of the BB PITA's.

 
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Old 12-11-2010, 02:02 AM   #18
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The plastic is not rigid. When you have it full of liquid and pick it up, the bottom pulls down and sucks through your airlock. One of the BB PITA's.
Ah! I see now. Thanks!

 
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Old 12-11-2010, 02:03 AM   #19
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They're light and safe, but the suck back when you pick them up, so you can draw air into them through your airlock. it takes a little getting used to. You can pick them up, but it takes some practice. I'm personally done with glass.

 
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Old 12-11-2010, 02:43 AM   #20
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i have both... i prefer glass or think i do anyways yet always grab the better bottles. i guess id just save money and get only those if i had a brain.
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