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Old 12-09-2010, 01:32 PM   #1
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So.... In the never ending quest to increase the ease of brewing, I am looking into conical fermenters, but my main concern is temp control. Main issue is where i live, and the summertime is almost impossible to ferment below 72 without a keezer/fridge/ type environment. Not opposed to any of these solutions, but.... most conicals would make it hard to be in a keeze type of enviro. Any suggestions?


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So.... In the never ending quest to increase the ease of brewing, I am looking into conical fermenters, but my main concern is temp control. Main issue is where i live, and the summertime is almost impossible to ferment below 72 without a keezer/fridge/ type environment. Not opposed to any of these solutions, but.... most conicals would make it hard to be in a keeze type of enviro. Any suggestions?
No, that's why I don't have a conical, either! A 7 gallon would fit in a refrigerator, but a 14 gallon won't. I don't have the money/time/ability to make a cold room or run a glycol system.

Check out Brewpastor's system if you are a DIY type. I think it's a homemade glycol chilling system for his fermenters.


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Old 12-09-2010, 02:25 PM   #3
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Yes this is exactly why conicals are just not practical. I think you'd be better off with buckets or better bottles. If you really want stainless and your doing 10 gallon batches, think about fermenting in a 15 gallon Sanke keg. Any of those would fit in a standard fridge.

IMHO temp control is so much more important then a shiny conical.
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It depends on the conical - I know Blichmann conicals fit in a fridge, and Stout Tanks makes a "short one" that's basically the size of a sanke (slightly taller). Then, of course, there's the DIY plastic conicals that folks seem to be having success with, those are 19".
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It depends on the conical - I know Blichmann conicals fit in a fridge, and Stout Tanks makes a "short one" that's basically the size of a sanke (slightly taller). Then, of course, there's the DIY plastic conicals that folks seem to be having success with, those are 19".
yes but those are all for 5 gallon batches. With 10 gallon batches the logistics are much more difficult.
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Nope, those are 14 gallon sized conicals. The "short" Stout Tank is 15.75" wide and 33" high (alhtough their regular one is 23" wide, which is cutting it fine), and the Blichmann is 18.5" wide and 31" tall (or so). Granted, these won't fit in a mini fridge, but most standard top freezer refrigerators are 30" wide (total) and can accommodate one of these. (The plastic Norwesco tanks are 19" wide, 24" high, plus another foot to add legs and space for the dump valve).

Don't get me wrong tho - you still do need a (full size) fridge to act as a fermentation chamber to control the temps accurately.
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Nope, those are 14 gallon sized conicals. The "short" Stout Tank is 15.75" wide and 33" high (alhtough their regular one is 23" wide, which is cutting it fine), and the Blichmann is 18.5" wide and 31" tall (or so). Granted, these won't fit in a mini fridge, but most standard top freezer refrigerators are 30" wide (total) and can accommodate one of these. (The plastic Norwesco tanks are 19" wide, 24" high, plus another foot to add legs and space for the dump valve).

Don't get me wrong tho - you still do need a (full size) fridge to act as a fermentation chamber to control the temps accurately.
The width is not a problem it's the height. I don't think that height fits in most standard fridges. Also, the drain is too low and once it's full it's nearly impossible to move. So filling and emptying it while it's in the fridge sound like a real PITA.

I don't see a significant advantage over something as cheap as a pair of better bottles or even some plastic buckets.
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Full-size fridges usually have 35-36" of vertical clearance inside. The 14G Blichmann is just over 31" tall. It fits. I would think fitting into a standard fridge would be one of the design criteria.
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You can add a collar to your keezer to make it fit. I am in the process of doing just that.


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