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Old 12-02-2010, 09:09 PM   #1
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Not sure whether to put this in DIY or here but:

Looking at a build and was thinking about boil kettle height. Gravity feed would be great but I have to recirculate for my HLT anyway (it's electric) which means I need a pump there to begin with.

However, I like the idea of eliminating the wort pump; seems like one less thing to clog with grain and hot break and whatnot. Problem is the heights don't work out cleanly if you want to gravity drain from the MLT into the BK, then through a chiller into a fermentor.

So what about this:

36" height for HLT and MLT
BK on a scissors lift, adjustable between 12 and 40"
Burner on the lift with a flexible gas line

BK gets lowered to 12" for lautering
BK is raised to 40" for boil and runoff into fermentor

Anyone else try anything like this?

 
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:22 PM   #2
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how big are you batches?

 
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:23 PM   #3
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how big are you batches?
5-10 gallon (into a 13, soon to be 15 gallon BK)

 
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:38 PM   #4
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i seriously hope it works, because i thanksgiving day building a 3 tier rack system that uses gravity instead of pumps, just like you are describing.

i built my rack out of unistrut beams. they bolt together. it is 15.5" x 15.5" x 76", with a broad base for stability. it will hold my 12" diameter pots, the burners, and a 5 gallon round cooler.

i have never seen a production system for sale like this, with the 3 big components right above each other. i hope there's not a reason for that. my design is very space efficient.

 
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:46 PM   #5
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Here's what I'm thinking of doing in my (still under construction) brewhouse. Attach a ceiling hoist that I can use two swivel clips and attach to the keggle handles. A few pulls on the chain and up it goes.

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Not sure how I would feel about 10+ gallons of hot stuff on a wobbly scissor jack.

edit: I should add that I've got a strong exposed ceiling above me, if you're outside, well...

 
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:47 PM   #6
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Where did you get the idea that a wort pump would clog?

I use a March 809 and NEVER had it clog. I have made some major hop bombs. And the end of the runoff, all I was pumping was hop sludge. The pump never stopped working.

Personally, I would be paranoid about physically moving a container of 10-15 gallons of boiling wort. It just seems like a spill waiting to happen.

 
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:06 AM   #7
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Hey gunga, pretty sure someone here (Lil Sparkey?)
has an electric hoist in the garage for this.

 
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:09 AM   #8
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Hey gunga, pretty sure someone here (Lil Sparkey?)
has an electric hoist in the garage for this.
I've been looking on craigslist for a used electric one, they are too expensive new... haven't had any luck yet. Plus, the 10 seconds of pulling the chain through the pulley per batch is probably some of that 'exercise' stuff I keep hearing about.

 
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:35 AM   #9
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[QUOTE=Wayne1;2447810Personally, I would be paranoid about physically moving a container of 10-15 gallons of boiling wort. It just seems like a spill waiting to happen.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's the reason I didn't want to go the block n tackle route. But a scissors lift good for 800 pounds seems like a pretty bombproof alternative.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CEUQ8wIwBA#

Been watching ebay to see if anything pops up.

 
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Old 12-03-2010, 06:21 AM   #10
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I think a $140.00 pump and some hose is a simpler, less expensive and more efficient alternative.

But hey, it's your rig. Enjoy the build.

 
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