I want to make an Imperial IPA - just not hoppy - Home Brew Forums
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > I want to make an Imperial IPA - just not hoppy
Cool Brewing Giveaway - Supporting Membership Drive & Discount

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-01-2010, 02:04 AM   #1
jamesnsw
Recipes 
 
Mar 2009
, Indiana
Posts: 842
Liked 10 Times on 4 Posts



A lot of my friends have had the same reaction when trying an IIPA- they love the maltiness for the first second, and then HATE it.

So I am contemplating making a beer similar to an IPA, but dialing back the hops quite a bit.

Are there styles that would fit this description? Or am I better off just taking an IIPA recipe, and cutting the hops in half?


__________________
Some stuff I've made: Odell's 90 Shilling Clone, Abbey Weiss Pottsville Common, Simple Mead, Dry Dock Apricot Blonde Clone, Rye IPA, Maibock, Scrapper's Quaffable Irish Red, Short Sleep Blueberry Ale, Lazy Magnolia Pecan Nut Brown Ale Clone, Graff, Apfelwein, Cascades Orange Pale, Orfy's Mild Ale, Vagabond Gingered Ale
What to Brew for iOS (free)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 02:08 AM   #2
Reelale
Recipes 
 
Sep 2009
Posts: 17,742
Liked 1374 Times on 1332 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesnsw View Post
A lot of my friends have had the same reaction when trying an IIPA- they love the maltiness for the first second, and then HATE it.

So I am contemplating making a beer similar to an IPA, but dialing back the hops quite a bit.

Are there styles that would fit this description? Or am I better off just taking an IIPA recipe, and cutting the hops in half?
IMO, that is the real mark of an IIPA. It's a very malty backbone, balanced with ample hops. I find IPA's much more hop foward than IIPAs. I think IIPAs are really balanced. I'm thinking that cutting the hops would make the beer way to malty, maybe even too sweet.



 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 02:30 AM   #3
chapa
Recipes 
 
Jul 2010
St Louis, MO
Posts: 797
Liked 6 Times on 6 Posts


Yeah maybe use an IIPA malt bill so its a high gravity ale, and just scale back the IBU/SG ratio. You could also maybe use english hops to give it more of a mild hop taste. Do they not like the citrus flavor or what is it they hate about it?
__________________
Fermenting/Conditioning: Casc/Cent APA, Hoppy Birthday Amarillo/Simcoe IPA(6g American/5g Belgian), Chappist Belgian Dubbel
Bottled/Kegged: Red Rye IPA, Wesside Trip(Westmalle Tripel clone), ESB, Lil Trap (4% Trappist Starter Batch), Robust (Pumpkin) Porter, 3% Little Hopper, "Slick Rick" Old Engine Oil Clone(oaked w/ vanilla and balvenie scotch), Imperial RyePA,
On Deck: Quad, Belgian IPA, Orfy's Mild, Scotch Ale

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 02:38 AM   #4
jamesnsw
Recipes 
 
Mar 2009
, Indiana
Posts: 842
Liked 10 Times on 4 Posts


They don't like the bitterness- to them, it's a malty backbone with way too much hops- not really balanced. I agree that IPAs are more hop forward, but IIPAs are still pretty bitter.
__________________
Some stuff I've made: Odell's 90 Shilling Clone, Abbey Weiss Pottsville Common, Simple Mead, Dry Dock Apricot Blonde Clone, Rye IPA, Maibock, Scrapper's Quaffable Irish Red, Short Sleep Blueberry Ale, Lazy Magnolia Pecan Nut Brown Ale Clone, Graff, Apfelwein, Cascades Orange Pale, Orfy's Mild Ale, Vagabond Gingered Ale
What to Brew for iOS (free)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 02:39 AM   #5
avidhomebrewer
Recipes 
 
Sep 2007
Posts: 2,553
Liked 23 Times on 22 Posts


If they don't like the bitterness, keep in mind that with higher alcohol, the bitterness will be lessened, with the same amount of hops. I once made a rye IPA that was over 8% and around 80 IBU's. I'm not a huge bitter hophead, but I liked the way it turned out; could barely discern the bitterness. It was enough to get the job done.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 02:42 AM   #6
iparks81
Recipes 
 
Sep 2009
North Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 565
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


Late addition hops will bring the bitterness down...cut back the 60 min hop additions and boost the 10, 5, 0 min additions.
__________________
I love Alcohol, its in my Blood.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Revvy View Post
go rinse your mind out with soap for even THINKING about tossing a batch of beer.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 02:57 AM   #7
wonderbread23
Recipes 
 
Apr 2009
Brooklyn
Posts: 1,044
Liked 41 Times on 38 Posts


...look into barley wines. Its basically a less hopped, less attenuated IIPA.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 03:24 AM   #8
bubbachunk
Recipes 
 
Jan 2009
Cincinnati
Posts: 641
Liked 6 Times on 5 Posts


Just keep forcing IPAs down their throats until they learn to love them like the rest of us

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 03:39 AM   #9
jamesnsw
Recipes 
 
Mar 2009
, Indiana
Posts: 842
Liked 10 Times on 4 Posts


Thanks for all the suggestions- and I don't want to waste my good IPA on someone who winces :-).

One response I got to this was to make a Scottish Ale- I'm not terribly familiar with the style- what are your thoughts?
__________________
Some stuff I've made: Odell's 90 Shilling Clone, Abbey Weiss Pottsville Common, Simple Mead, Dry Dock Apricot Blonde Clone, Rye IPA, Maibock, Scrapper's Quaffable Irish Red, Short Sleep Blueberry Ale, Lazy Magnolia Pecan Nut Brown Ale Clone, Graff, Apfelwein, Cascades Orange Pale, Orfy's Mild Ale, Vagabond Gingered Ale
What to Brew for iOS (free)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 04:13 AM   #10
atgunning
Recipes 
 
Aug 2010
Bellevue, NE, Nebraska
Posts: 53


I just bottled a scotch Wee Heavy I brewed a couple of months ago. There is a total of 1 oz of hops in the entire 5 gallon batch. It's seriously malty, smells like vanilla toffee and caramel, and SWMBO just told me to make sure we always have some. Its around 9%, and is essentially diametrically opposite of an IIPA in terms of bitterness. The kit from Northern Brewer is the one I recommend to try it out.


__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by BierMuncher View Post
Just remember that the real enemy here are those wine drinking pussies.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do hoppy beers make your pee stink? sm007thie General Beer Discussion 49 03-05-2012 01:38 AM
Moylan's Hopsickle Imperial Ale (Triple Hoppy) Shepherd5 General Beer Discussion 12 12-15-2011 03:31 AM
wanting to try to make a hoppy light beer. nobody General Beer Discussion 7 11-21-2010 02:52 AM
My iPhone is hoppy ;) Myke_J General Beer Discussion 11 09-06-2010 11:30 PM
Hoppy brew??? pa-in-utah General Beer Discussion 7 04-09-2007 11:08 PM


Forum Jump