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Old 11-23-2010, 06:08 PM   #1
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Default My New 15 gal Fermenter - Need Help

Really I will probably only do 10 gal batchs in it but it is 15 gals in size.

This is a 15 gal food grade container with a screw on lid that has an O-ring in the lid. I believe they are used to transport baking soda or some such by the guy I bought it from.



Sitting next to a standard 6.5 gallon bucket:



Nice handles though I am not sure how they would handle 10 - 12 gallons worth of weight:



I drilled the hole and put the grommet in for the airlock/blowoff tube:



You can see the O-ring in the lid, I believe this is airtight when screwed shut:



Inside view:



I figure it would take a long time to syphon 10 gals so I installed a spout:



I filled it up with gallons of water and marked 5, 10, and 12 gallons on the side:



Filled with 15 gallons is right to the bottom of the threads. Not sure I would ever put 15 gallons in it but good to know I can:



Now the part I need help with. While I was filling it with water I got to thinking that since it is airtight it would be cool if I could PUSH the beer out into the kegs using CO2. Like they do with some of the conicals I have seen.

Since when it is full of 10 gallons of beer it's gonna be REAL heavy and lifting it up onto something to gravity feed the kegs is gonna suck. If I can push the beer out using CO2 it would make life a whole lot better. So what I was wondering is if there is some sort of fitting the will screw into a corny keg post? That way I just hook up a gas disconnect to it and a hose on the spout to push the beer out.

I have spare kegs so I could steal a post or buy one online eventually. But what sort of fitting would screw into it and using o-rings or rubber washers between them and the lid give me an airtight seal???? I would just put it where the o-ring for an airlock is now like so:



Use a "gutted" disconnect and attach a hose for a blow off tube.

Help? Ideas?

I am going to the "fittings" place in town now that has all the different stuff like this to see if I can find something that works but in case I can't any help would be appreciated.


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Old 11-23-2010, 06:11 PM   #2
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:21 PM   #3
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what sort of fitting would screw into it and using o-rings or rubber washers between them and the lid give me an airtight seal????
The crummy part of this plan is that the keg post uses an odd size, 19/32". You can buy adapters from http://www.midwestsupplies.com or http://www.chicompany.net/

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/corne...r-1-4-mpt.html

http://www.chicompany.net/index.php?...b4d5923070d41d

This adapter will get you to 1/4"MPT which is a common size. Then you would also need a gutted disconnect and post (remove poppet). So, yes, it could be done.

If you're draining out the bottom, you could just use a barbed fitting to connect the gas tube through the grommet hole. Much cheaper, but lacks the bling factor.
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Fixed the one picture showing the o-ring in the lid.
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Learned about it from here: http://suburb.semo.net/jet1024/15%20...0Fermenter.htm

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Tell me about it I spent the day looking and nothing "normal" fits. I found a less "elegant" solution. But the total cost will be about $5 for it as opposed to the $8 - $11 for the adapters you posted. And I don't have to use a disconnect.

Not as "blingy" but will work just as well.

I will post pics when I get it put together.

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The crummy part of this plan is that the keg post uses an odd size, 19/32". You can buy adapters from http://www.midwestsupplies.com or http://www.chicompany.net/

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/corne...r-1-4-mpt.html

http://www.chicompany.net/index.php?...b4d5923070d41d

This adapter will get you to 1/4"MPT which is a common size. Then you would also need a gutted disconnect and post (remove poppet). So, yes, it could be done.

If you're draining out the bottom, you could just use a barbed fitting to connect the gas tube through the grommet hole. Much cheaper, but lacks the bling factor.
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I use a hole saw to cut a larger hole in the lid of my buckets that I use for fermentors.

I use a drilled rubber stopper with an airlock. There are 2 advantages over the grommet you have in the lid...

1 - I can use a thief to take a sample, by just pulling the stopper and don't have to remove the lid.

2 - When ready to rack, I have another stopper (I bought a solid stopper to start with), with 2 holes in it. One hole fits snuggly on a stainless racking cane, the other I put a barbed to MFL adapter in and hook it to the co2 regulator. Then I just hold the stopper in place to transfer with co2 pressure. I don't want anything that seals too well for fear of over pressurizing the bucket or better bottle, or glass carboy.

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I could see how that would work but I think I have come up with a little more elegant solution. Costs about the same too.

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I use a hole saw to cut a larger hole in the lid of my buckets that I use for fermentors.

I use a drilled rubber stopper with an airlock. There are 2 advantages over the grommet you have in the lid...

1 - I can use a thief to take a sample, by just pulling the stopper and don't have to remove the lid.

2 - When ready to rack, I have another stopper (I bought a solid stopper to start with), with 2 holes in it. One hole fits snuggly on a stainless racking cane, the other I put a barbed to MFL adapter in and hook it to the co2 regulator. Then I just hold the stopper in place to transfer with co2 pressure. I don't want anything that seals too well for fear of over pressurizing the bucket or better bottle, or glass carboy.

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My bad, where did you buy the actual container from, I want one.
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this looks interesting. what about this drum, 20 gallon, 56 shipped to your door, brand new

http://www.labplanet.com/eagle-manuf...0gal-1650.html


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