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Old 11-08-2010, 07:48 PM   #11
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Sort of, yes.

It is artifacting and smearing caused by the processor of the TV trying to deal with 24fps and 60fps video sources and the set having a native 120Hz/240Hz refresh rate. Something has to make up for the extra frames since they can;t be bothered anymore to allow a source to be played at a native resolution or refresh rate.

samsung describes the effect as an interpolation between frames. Basically the processors look at the 2 frames and the interpolate what should be between them to try to smooth out the picture. I guess the Samsung techs have bad eyesight in QC cause it is pretty obvious that the picture is artificial.

Wanna hear something really odd? Samsung says that if you rename the input to "Game" it turns off most all of the processors. I find this odd because they also say that setting the processor to "off" manually doesn't always turn it off. By design! WTF?
This is why I don't own a samsung TV.

 
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:50 PM   #12
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This is why I don't own a samsung TV.
The same effect has been reported on Sony, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, and IIRC, LG. All 120Hz or better sets.

 
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:09 PM   #13
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The same effect has been reported on Sony, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, and IIRC, LG. All 120Hz or better sets.
+1, they all do it as far as i've seen.

 
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:12 PM   #14
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+1, they all do it as far as i've seen.
Yeah. I think he was poking at the Samsung hidden meaning tho'. That is, Off not really being Off. and Game mode being advertised as optimized for the gaming experience but actually being the one mode taht actually does turn all the crap off.

 
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:23 PM   #15
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The same effect has been reported on Sony, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, and IIRC, LG. All 120Hz or better sets.
Its easy to turn off in most sets. Samsung pretty much doesn't allow you to turn off pre-processing.

 
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:57 AM   #16
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I'll stick with my plasma, it is just unbelieveable
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:20 AM   #17
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I fully agree, HD is awesoem for sport, but I really don't like the super-real look it gives movies.

Call me old school, but I wanna see CRT's coming back!

 
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:27 AM   #18
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I have a CRT HDTV and it looks FANTASTIC! I'm still going to upgrade to a flatscreen since I want something a bit bigger, but for the last 6 years or so, I've been completely happy with my CRT.

 
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:03 AM   #19
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For sports, second to none. For movies, I hate it. The "soap opera effect" looks ridiculous. To say it looks overly real seems silly, but it does. For HD movies, my DLP looks much more realistic imo. It seems that technology is getting to good.
Wow.. that is a perfect analogy.. I've always had a hard time coming up with a good comparison for that effect.. and couldn't ever drive the point to whoever I was talking to.

I think it's fine for TV, but I haven't watched too many movies with that effect. My parents have an Olivia that is pretty decent and looks good for movies. I just have a 57" RPTV.. works great for football!
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:58 PM   #20
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Just turn off all the preprocessing and it goes away. Its the interpolation that does it. You don't need it running.

 
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