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Old 11-02-2010, 08:50 PM   #1
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Hey all. So I'm working on a parts list for my first brew system. I decided to go electric. I have been figuring out the temperature controller part today and I think I have it mostly figured out. I just wanted to run this PID by you guys and make sure it would work.

http://sestos-hk.com/english/product...?productid=495

They can be found pretty cheap on ebay. I don't see why it wouldn't work as long as you got the D1S-VR-220 version, which has the SSR output. I may still go with Auber, but I'm trying to be budget conscious ya know? Are there any other alternative PID's I should look for. Should I just stick with Auber?

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Old 11-02-2010, 08:55 PM   #2
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There is a lot of experience with Aubers here on HBT. SO that translates to lots of folks that can answer questions if you have em.

I went a bit of a different route... I went with a BCS-460 by Control Concepts. It is basically 4 PID's + a bunch more stuff in one package.

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Old 11-02-2010, 08:59 PM   #3
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Well that kinda makes sense as the way to go, since I would have a minimum of 2 controllers and probably 4 by the time I'm all done. I saw something referencing that system, but didn't realize it was hardware. I just thought it was software to interface with something else so I didn't research it too much. Thanks for the heads up. I'll look at it too.

 
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:08 PM   #4
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They can be found pretty cheap on ebay. I don't see why it wouldn't work as long as you got the D1S-VR-220 version, which has the SSR output.
Had a quick look at the product catalogue and as I read it the SSR model seems to be for controlling an SSR rather than having an SSR to control an element (not sure whether the Auber ones are the same though - just checked and it does seem like the norm, so you would still need a low voltage supply and external SSR with this one).
http://sestos-hk.com/english/download/D1S-EN.pdf

How much is pretty cheap as the Auber ones seemed like they were only about $40-50 (without the ramp/soak function) from http://www.auberins.com?

 
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:17 PM   #5
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Had a quick look at the product catalogue and as I read it the SSR model seems to be for controlling an SSR rather than having an SSR to control an element (not sure whether the Auber ones are the same though - just checked and it does seem like the norm, so you would still need a low voltage supply and external SSR with this one).
http://sestos-hk.com/english/download/D1S-EN.pdf
All pids have simple low-current drivers for either driving a SSR or the coil of a mechanical relay. None of them can be connected directly to the heating element.

PID looks fine. It has a manual mode, which many lack. I second the comment above: if you have any problems with it you are not going to find much help at this forum. Almost everyone here uses the Auber PIDs.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:22 PM   #6
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Yeah the Auber ones control an SSR, so you have to buy an SSR and heatsink still.

The sestos I found on Ebay for $30 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-PID-Digital-...item336227c140

Auber is $41 - $45 + shipping...

Not a huge difference, but it is like getting 3 for the price of 2 Aubers...

 
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:24 PM   #7
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All pids have simple low-current drivers for either driving a SSR or the coil of a mechanical relay. None of them can be connected directly to the heating element.
Thanks for confirming that, but are you saying that the PID can directly drive the external SSR, i.e. no external low voltage supply is required?

 
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:26 PM   #8
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Yeah the Auber ones control an SSR, so you have to buy an SSR and heatsink still.

The sestos I found on Ebay for $30 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-PID-Digital-...item336227c140

Auber is $41 - $45 + shipping...

Not a huge difference, but it is like getting 3 for the price of 2 Aubers...
Depending on shipping that could actually be like getting 2 for the price of 1! And you better hurry up, that auction only has 17 min left ! might look at his store and see what else he has.

EDIT: It seems like the $30 one was the 2R model with 2 realy outputs, this is the VR http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-PID-Temp...item33621ec806 = $40

 
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:28 PM   #9
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Well one drawback I just discovered. The Sestos model only shows the temp in Celsius. But a nice neat little conversion chart next to the panel might be a good thing. Help me switch over to what the rest of the world uses, lol.

Also, the way I understand it, yes the PID has a 12VDC output to drive the SSR. The Auber is 8VDC I think.

 
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:32 PM   #10
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Being an Auber owner, I'd spring for the extra 10-15 bucks and go with the sure thing. Not worth blazing a new trail when there's a perfectly good, well established path already.

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