Brew Masters on Discovery w/ Sam Calagione - Page 103 - Home Brew Forums
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Brew Masters on Discovery w/ Sam Calagione

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-10-2010, 08:59 PM   #1021
cmmcdonn
Recipes 
 
Dec 2010
Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 31

The move to dump it was genius.

Of course they could have sold every last drop of it as a limited edition, and even though I would still buy a bottle of it, I would never forget that they bottled a mistake as a new item. Are they Microsoft or something?

They displayed on national television that they have strict quality standards and that they stick to them even if it means taking a pretty big hit.

They will inevitably gain much more from dumping that batch on camera than the $500k they have lost.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:11 PM   #1022
GaryJohn
Recipes 
 
Apr 2010
chicago
Posts: 228
Liked 7 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by cmmcdonn View Post
The move to dump it was genius.

Of course they could have sold every last drop of it as a limited edition, and even though I would still buy a bottle of it, I would never forget that they bottled a mistake as a new item. Are they Microsoft or something?

They displayed on national television that they have strict quality standards and that they stick to them even if it means taking a pretty big hit.

They will inevitably gain much more from dumping that batch on camera than the $500k they have lost.
They will gain much more, perhaps, but what about all the people all over the world that could have used that beer...people starving that could really use the calories...they all lose.

Call me old fashioned, but I only see it as a waste of food and a waste of booze. I understand they have a reputation, but they just moved down a peg in my eyes.

What about a bread factory that makes a huge batch of bread that doesn't taste just right? Should they just destroy it? I don't think so, personally. Beer > bread.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:14 PM   #1023
IffyG
Recipes 
 
Oct 2009
Nashville
Posts: 1,393
Liked 62 Times on 51 Posts


Seems like DFH is damned if they do, damned if they don't in this situation (and anything else cover in the show). It's pretty obvious from this thread that people just want to hate on them no matter what decisions they make...

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:14 PM   #1024
jgln
Recipes 
 
May 2008
Southern, NJ
Posts: 3,486
Liked 54 Times on 42 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryJohn View Post
They will gain much more, perhaps, but what about all the people all over the world that could have used that beer...people starving that could really use the calories...they all lose.

Call me old fashioned, but I only see it as a waste of food and a waste of booze. I understand they have a reputation, but they just moved down a peg in my eyes.

What about a bread factory that makes a huge batch of bread that doesn't taste just right? Should they just destroy it? I don't think so, personally. Beer > bread.
My mother used to work at a large supermarket chain (years ago) and when I asked her about the stuff that was too old to sell and what they did with it she said they threw it out and could not give it away. My guess is some stuff gets sent back to be recycled but the point is they could not give it away, had to be disposed of.

I thought that was a shame too with homeless people and all but from a business perspective proabably smart. How many people would take expired free food over paying full price?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:16 PM   #1025
GaryJohn
Recipes 
 
Apr 2010
chicago
Posts: 228
Liked 7 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by jgln View Post
My mother used to work at a large supermarket chain (years ago) and when I asked her about the stuff that was too old to sell and what they did with it she said they threw it out and could not give it away. My guess is some stuff gets sent back to be recycled but the point is they could not give it away, had to be disposed of.
It's sad. People could use it, but perhaps there isn't the infastructure or logistics to get it where it needs to go.

In terms of beer, I would have donated it to a distiller, and see what could be done in terms of salvage.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:17 PM   #1026
smmcdermott
Recipes 
 
Aug 2009
Connecticut
Posts: 419
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


^ Donating alcohol to poor countries is also a lot different then donating sweet bread.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:19 PM   #1027
jgln
Recipes 
 
May 2008
Southern, NJ
Posts: 3,486
Liked 54 Times on 42 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryJohn View Post
It's sad. People could use it, but perhaps there isn't the infastructure or logistics to get it where it needs to go.

In terms of beer, I would have donated it to a distiller, and see what could be done in terms of salvage.
Muffin bottoms??

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:20 PM   #1028
Yunko
Recipes 
 
Nov 2010
Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 52
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


+10,000 as to why a company that "thinks outside of the box" would dump $1/2 MIL worth of beer that was perfectly fine but out of spec.

I'm fairly certain they didn't actually dump it and just blended and served at their brewpub.

But that begs the question: Why in the hell would they fudge the facts for the show - now the public at large just sees the bad management.

*irk

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:23 PM   #1029
Frodo
Recipes 
 
Nov 2009
Reno, NV
Posts: 1,033
Liked 28 Times on 27 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by logan3825 View Post
I think this show must have been filmed in early 2009. The tree-house was in Beer Wars and there was a February 2009 date on one of the beer cases.
My bet is that this was actually filmed as the pilot episode, but they realized they needed more of a hook for the audience than just "making beer" - so I'm guessing they bumped the more exciting (to the general viewer) "international" shows up to the head of the line. Once you have people watching, you can throw in more of the science of brewing like was highlighted a bit more in this episode which would likely bore people if it was the first episode.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:32 PM   #1030
Randar
All your Ninkasi are belong to us
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Randar's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2008
Wheeling, IL
Posts: 40,050
Liked 5298 Times on 5118 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by motobrewer View Post
you're telling me sam is creative enough to put out some of the weird things he's put out, but not enough to do something with an off-flavored 120?
Yeah, you could throw it in barrels and add some funky junky to it and who knows?

I guess as a businessman you do have to know when to walk away and write it off. You will spend time, money and resources trying to save it and no guarantee it is worth saving.

Besides, if it turned out awesome it might have been unrepeatable!

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Amazing Discovery!! drkwoods General Beer Discussion 11 11-19-2010 08:02 PM
UCD Masters Brews Program or Professional Brewers Certificate Program ddrayne10 General Beer Discussion 1 05-24-2010 11:56 PM
Sam Calagione in SF on Feb 8 Matt Up North General Beer Discussion 1 01-23-2009 03:18 AM


Forum Jump