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Old 08-22-2005, 03:28 PM   #1
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Here are a couple of excerpts from instructions for making a yeast starter:

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Bring to a boil 1/3 cup of extra light DME, 2 cups of water, and 2 hop pellets.
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Simmer 2 tablespoons of malt extract & a half dozen hop pellets in two cups of water.
So why the hop pellets in the yeast starter? Does anybody here do that? What purpose do they serve...to make your starter smell like beer? Or is this just a question of trying to sell more hop pellets.


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Old 08-22-2005, 04:02 PM   #2
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I've often wondered that myself. Nothing like breaking open a vacuum-sealed bag of pellets for nothing. I think you're onto something.


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Old 08-22-2005, 04:59 PM   #3
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Seems ridiculous to me... hops don't have any role in the reduction of infection do they? Come to think of it, wasn't that why an IPA was hopped up though; to make the long journey to India? Hmmm....

BTW - no, I don't add hops.

 
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:31 PM   #4
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Seems ridiculous to me... hops don't have any role in the reduction of infection do they? Come to think of it, wasn't that why an IPA was hopped up though; to make the long journey to India? Hmmm....

BTW - no, I don't add hops.
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I thought that's why an IPA is typically stronger (ABV) than, say, an EPA, and the extra hops were a matter of trying to balance the taste? then again, i don't know either, which is why i'm posing the question
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:46 PM   #5
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that is what the hops are for. help prevent contamination ofthe starter. but, i don't use them. sux paying $2.50 for an ounce of hops to use 2-3 pellets. i'll save 'em for the brew!
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:50 PM   #6
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I thought that's why an IPA is typically stronger (ABV) than, say, an EPA, and the extra hops were a matter of trying to balance the taste? then again, i don't know either, which is why i'm posing the question
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Both, actually... to stabilize the beer, and to balance the flavor. At least that's what I've gathered.

I've never messed with them in a starter, for the reasons stated by others. I just sanitize my stuff.
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:18 PM   #7
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just read this;

" "Keeping beer" was made to lay down in the cellar as a provision, to be drawn upon during the summer. The tradition ended when the development of refrigeration made it possible to continue brewing during the warmer months.
Because hops act as a natural preservative, they were used generously in "keeping beers". XXK has three times the hop content of its winter counterpart. It was probably intended to last seven months until the new brewing season began in October."

at http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000070.html

 
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:35 PM   #8
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It is definately common knowledge that hops has antiseptic properties , some have even said it has medicinial properties. However, I dont know if there is any scientific data to that can prove these claims either way. It certainly IS possible to spoil a batch of beer though, but it has never happened to me.

 
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:31 AM   #9
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I concur with the talk about the "preservative" property. That's how/why IPAs were developed - the sheer amount of hops in the beer preserved it long enough to ship the beer from England to India when England was colonizing it. Then people became accustomed to the hoppiness and the style stuck, but it was functional before it was fashionable.

 
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:07 AM   #10

But, to get back to the heart of the matter - are they needed in a starter? I don't think they are.

If I'm doing a starter for, say, an APA, and it calls or a fair amount of Cascades and, if I happen to have some Cascades already opened, I may throw one or two into the starter.

Otherwise, I don't bother.



 
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