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Old 10-22-2010, 08:06 PM   #101
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Do I need to sanitize? I thought that the bourbon and high alcohol content would
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:08 PM   #102
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Here is what I'm doing for this. Using marris otter for the base, using crystal 40 for the amber and for the dark just finished roasting some marris otter, for the hops going to use willamette. Doing my starter on the 9097 in a few and brewing on Sunday. I'll post some pics.

One last thing I have bourbon barrel lids that I'll cutting into strips for the oak should I put some bourbon over them to sanitize or just drop them in since this is already a bugged beer.
Bourbon probably isn't high enough alc% to actually sanitize. I guess it depends on how the barrel ends were stored. I re-listened to episode 4 of brew strong and the suggestions were either use a pressure canner to sterilize or bring to a boil in a small amount of water in a microwave.

I mentioned in post 15 that just having brett present doesn't make it bugged, since brett is just another genus of Saccharomycetaceae. Saccharomyces is a genus of Saccharomycetaceae as well. For my bugged version I'm either adding Lactobacillus to the 9097 or using the Roeselare blend which contains Specific proportions of a Belgian style ale strain, a sherry strain, two Brettanomyces strains, a Lactobacillus culture, and a Pediococcus culture.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:47 PM   #103
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Yes, adding non sanitized oak could introduce all kinds of bugs other than Brett. It might come out really good...but its a total dice roll!!
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:55 PM   #104
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Bourbon (or any other 80 proof ethanol spirit) is a plenty good sterilizer. In fact, I remember reading 40% ABV solutions are better sanitizers than 100% ethanol due to the fact that in higher ethanol solutions, the bugs will kind of clench up and not let the etOH into their cells.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:00 PM   #105
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Bourbon (or any other 80 proof ethanol spirit) is a plenty good sterilizer. In fact, I remember reading 40% ABV solutions are better sanitizers than 100% ethanol due to the fact that in higher ethanol solutions, the bugs will kind of clench up and not let the etOH into their cells.
Yeah but on a porous surface like wood there are plenty of places for the bacteria to hide that the bourbon wont get to. Bourbon will work great on a hard, non-porous surface for sanitation.
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Yeah but on a porous surface like wood there are plenty of places for the bacteria to hide that the bourbon wont get to. Bourbon will work great on a hard, non-porous surface for sanitation.
That's why I always let the oak cubes soak for a couple weeks in the spirit. I've never had this lead to an infection.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:16 PM   #107
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Well damn...

This thread probably explains why Ed was out of 9097.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:31 PM   #108
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Well damn...

This thread probably explains why Ed was out of 9097.
I may have gotten one of his last ones! Sorry.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:35 PM   #109
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No problem. I've been busy with work and didnt even see what you were brewing in this thread until now. Enjoy!
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:25 AM   #110
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I would love to be in on this. Sounds like a fantastic recipe. I think I'm going to use my home-made Dark Candi Sugar instead of the treacle.
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