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Old 10-06-2010, 04:50 PM   #1
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Default A box barrel.

I'm looking around, and I've notices that barrels are fairly expensive. Also that I wouldn't know how to go about making one. I'm toying with the idea of making a barrel box for my cider. Basically just a wooden box held together with pressure or other means that will act as a barrel. Anyone think this will work? I know barrels are held together with pressure and precisely cut lids, but it should be able to be applied to a box. Ideas?


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Old 10-06-2010, 05:26 PM   #2
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Are there any whiskey distilleries in your area? Buying a secondhand barrel is a lot cheaper. What you are describing may work, but seems a bit like learning to blow glass because carboys are too expensive.


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Old 10-06-2010, 05:46 PM   #3
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Well, being down in southern california really puts a damper on finding an apple or hard nearby or any distilleries. I know in the area around me I can't find any distilleries without driving for quite a ways. And learning to blow glass wouldn't be a terrible idea. I'm a hands on kinda guy. Haha
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I thought barrels work because they are round. That's how the pressure "seals" them, by distributing evenly. Pressure likes circles; angles, not so much.

I would think coopers would have figured out how to make cubic barrels after thousands of years if they were easier and cheaper. After all, they'd be easier to stack and store.
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20 gal., food grade, plastic, trash can for under $30 with a lid from any restaurant supply retailer.
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Old 10-06-2010, 06:59 PM   #6
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20 gal., food grade, plastic, trash can for under $30 with a lid from any restaurant supply retailer.
I'm not so much looking for any ol container to use to age it, I wanted a wooden one specifically because they impart quite a nice flavor to whatever they hold. I'm looking to do one more nice batch before I'm off to the navy, and I want it to be special. Don't think I'll be doing much brewing there.
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You can always use wood chips available from your local home brew outlet.
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That's true. Should pick up a 5gal carboy and a brewing bucket. Up to this point vie been using 1gal glass bottles and balloons for airlocks. Talk about low tech.
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Why is everyone dissuading him? If he wants to try making a cube "barrel" I think we shouldn't offer other "suggestions," he's not looking for that. If anyone has anyone has any woodworking skills/insights, that's what people who want to contribute should be offer. Other's should just stfu.

Bubbles I think it would be worth a try. Someone else on here is looking into making a wooden "conical" fermenter. Plus I think experimentation is great, so many breakthroughs in brewing have happened by messing around (using a turkey fryer, making a mash tun in a cooler, using an aquarium airstone and a red oxygen bottle to aerate.)

If you could come up with am easy, and possibly cheap alternative to a wooden barrel that we can make for ourself, that would be awesome.

One shape to consider would be the cuban Cajone box drum shape.





I'm not sure of the term, but obviously you would have to come up with a water tight "joint" between each edge/corner of the box.
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i don't know how you would seal a cube unless you used caulk.

barrels seal because they have a metal rings compressed onto them.


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