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Old 09-22-2010, 03:41 PM   #1
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Default Beer on tip of a cider yeast cake?

Would there be any issues with this?

Currently have 2 batches of cider (one with notty, one with safale) and am wondering about when they are done if there would be any issue with dropping a beer on top of the cake.


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Old 09-22-2010, 08:15 PM   #2
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None that I can think of.


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Old 09-23-2010, 06:23 PM   #3
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I think that I read somewhere that yeast can rapidly lose their ability to ferment maltose (the main sugar in wort) if they are in an environment without a significant amount of maltose (like a cider, for example). You could try, but you might end up having to repitch yeast on top of it anyway.
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as long as you get most of the trub out. you may want to try it with a small test batch first though.
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I think that I read somewhere that yeast can rapidly lose their ability to ferment maltose (the main sugar in wort) if they are in an environment without a significant amount of maltose (like a cider, for example). You could try, but you might end up having to repitch yeast on top of it anyway.
This is in How to Brew and a couple other books I've read. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it - otherwise, why aren't we just making starters with table sugar to save money?
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I think that I read somewhere that yeast can rapidly lose their ability to ferment maltose (the main sugar in wort) if they are in an environment without a significant amount of maltose (like a cider, for example). You could try, but you might end up having to repitch yeast on top of it anyway.
That is what I was looking for, do you have a source?
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Seems like another myth perpetuated by the web?
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As long as you aren't pitching a high gravity beer on it, I don't really see a problem. Maybe the whole simple sugar thing, but I've never really tested that to see if its true. I think its more that you don't want to propagate yeast (as in a starter) with simple sugars. Even if the yeast from the cider cake are a little lazy, there should be more than enough to get the job done.


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