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Old 08-27-2010, 05:22 AM   #1
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A few questions:

I posted this in response to a thread in the cider recipe forum, but haven't gotten a response. So I'll ask here. (Here's the link to the original post.)

After backsweetening, why can it not be bottle carbonated? It seems like your adding more sugars for the yeast, is it because of the risk of bottle bombs?
Would it taste alright uncarbonated? (I don't have the capability to keg or force carb)
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:57 PM   #2
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You can try to back sweeten with a non fermentable sugar. I used splenda when I made a hard lemonade a couple of years ago. It left a weird off flavor that mellowed out after a year. If you want to back back sweeten on the cheap I would recommend getting a tap a draft system that way you can sorbate back sweeten and then force carb for around 60 dollars

 
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:03 PM   #3
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Don't use Aspartame, it tastes like crap.

If the yeast is active, adding sugar can create bottle bombs. You've got the choice to either completely stablize the cider (making it uncarbonatable in bottles - but some add Sprite or 7up after for a bit of sweetness and carbonation.)

Many people prefer Cider uncarbonated, but if you're into commercial ciders, I wouldn't recommend it. It looks to me like your best bet is sweetener if you want to carbonate your cider - not the best result, but it's a learning curve for next time, and it won't be bad!

 
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:05 PM   #4
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Oh, and you can get non-fermentable sugars from your local home brew store, or commercial sweeteners should be available in most supermarkets.

 
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:14 PM   #5
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I use a splenda knockoff for back sweetening, then use dextrose for bottle carbing, without issue.

 
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:15 PM   #6
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Carbonation isn't a necessity, I tried an uncarbed one last night and it wasn't too bad (I could do better!)

So how do I stabilize?
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:28 PM   #7
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I'm not 100% sure (as i've been asking questions myself lately) but I think the addition of Sodium Metabisulphite and Potassium Sorbate in a solution and stirred through is enough to stop the yeast from breeding after a day or two, then you should be okay to carbonate. Get a second opinion though!

 
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:18 PM   #8
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I have 10 gallons bubbling away right now. My plan is to ferment it out dry, then rack to bucket and prime with near 2 cups dextrose. After 5-6 days, I plan to pop one open every other day to check the carbonation/sweetness. After I get what I want, I'll pasteurize the bottles to kill off the yeast, leaving the sweetness.

This is a method I've salvaged from different threads in the Cider forum, but haven't tried for myself yet. However, it seems like a good method for those of us who can't force carb.

P.S.: Thought I'd put this out there now before someone yells at me: this is a risk for bottle bombs. However, being careful and being frequent on checking the bottles can prevent that.
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:19 PM   #9
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How do you pastuerize?
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:48 PM   #10
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Quote:
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I'm not 100% sure (as i've been asking questions myself lately) but I think the addition of Sodium Metabisulphite and Potassium Sorbate in a solution and stirred through is enough to stop the yeast from breeding after a day or two, then you should be okay to carbonate. Get a second opinion though!
Yes, that's pretty much it. I prefer potassium metabisulfite, not the sodium version, but it's because I don't want to add sodium. So, you add the k-meta (campden tablets is the easiest way to do it- one crushed campden tablet per gallon), and sorbate (1/2 teaspoon per gallon) dissolved in a little water. Rack the wine/cider into it and wait a few days. Sweeten to taste and bottle.
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